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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

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Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 544425 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2860 on: February 14, 2020, 12:59:52 PM »
Where did I say that?
How else would he be able to prove himself right by going to China?
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2861 on: February 14, 2020, 01:00:49 PM »
Dear anti-vaxxer
now is the time to go to China and prove us wrong
Along the same lines

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2862 on: February 14, 2020, 01:12:09 PM »
How else would he be able to prove himself right by going to China?
He wouldn't. Just like the Anti Vaxxer can't prove anyone wrong.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2863 on: February 14, 2020, 01:14:48 PM »
How else would he be able to prove himself right by going to China?
I'll dissect the joke for you. Anti-Vaxers believe the best response to the measles is to get the measles and thereby become immune, if that's the best response to the measles it should also be the best response to corona-virus.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2864 on: February 14, 2020, 01:19:19 PM »
I'll dissect the joke for you. Anti-Vaxers believe the best response to the measles is to get the measles and thereby become immune, if that's the best response to the measles it should also be the best response to corona-virus.
If that was his point, I missed it.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2865 on: April 12, 2020, 12:46:13 AM »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2866 on: April 12, 2020, 07:19:35 AM »
😂

I wonder if this whole experience changes people perspectives on vaccines? For example measles is significantly more contagious than SARS-COV2. If immunity fell significantly or if there had never been a Measles vaccine, it would be far more tragic than the current pandemic. As it is up to 150k ppl die annually from measles worldwide (due to low immunization in third world countries). The biggest difference aside for the fact that it would be far more impossible to avoid exposure is that it would primarily affect infants and young people as compared to COVID-19.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2867 on: April 12, 2020, 05:19:57 PM »
If vaccines work, why isn’t there one for covid?

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2869 on: April 12, 2020, 05:34:18 PM »
https://twitter.com/meganamram/status/1249075149975912448
Judging by the responses on Twitter, I feel like I need to let you know this is a joke

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2870 on: April 12, 2020, 05:47:58 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2871 on: April 13, 2020, 03:39:40 PM »
If vaccines work, why isn’t there one for covid?

We want to give the naturopaths, herbalists, shamans and anti-vaxers a chance to prove on a global scale how well their cures work.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2872 on: April 13, 2020, 03:40:38 PM »

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2873 on: April 13, 2020, 03:55:16 PM »

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2874 on: April 26, 2020, 11:27:11 AM »
I don't want to go into the whole discussion of vaccines but if I can change the mind of one person/family then it's worth it:
My young brother wasn't vaccinated for the measles and he got it when he was a young baby. He was then completely healthy until the age of 9 when we realized something was wrong. After many tests, scans & MRI, the doctor found that it was a rare complication of the measles that comes out only years later and no one till that day recovered from it. The body just stop functioning in many stages and people were able to stay alive for a maximum of 8 years with an average of 4 years. This happens 1 in 10M measles cases.
I don't remember all the details, the name of this complication, and why my brother wasn't vaccinated for the measles (although we were all vaccinated in my family), and I don't want to ask my parents any questions about it.
Someone called me a few months ago after there was a big controversy in CH about vaccines and ask me; "is it true your brother had complications because he got vaccinated?" I was shocked from this question but I still had to verify to be 100% sure. My only question to my mother was if my brother was vaccinated or not and she confirmed he wasn't.
My brother past away 3 years later at the age of 12. It was 3 painful years with a hospital bed at home with many machines and a surgery or visit at the hospital every few months.
If he just had the damn vaccine...

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2875 on: April 26, 2020, 05:48:05 PM »
I don't want to go into the whole discussion of vaccines but if I can change the mind of one person/family then it's worth it:
My young brother wasn't vaccinated for the measles and he got it when he was a young baby. He was then completely healthy until the age of 9 when we realized something was wrong. After many tests, scans & MRI, the doctor found that it was a rare complication of the measles that comes out only years later and no one till that day recovered from it. The body just stop functioning in many stages and people were able to stay alive for a maximum of 8 years with an average of 4 years. This happens 1 in 10M measles cases.
I don't remember all the details, the name of this complication, and why my brother wasn't vaccinated for the measles (although we were all vaccinated in my family), and I don't want to ask my parents any questions about it.
Someone called me a few months ago after there was a big controversy in CH about vaccines and ask me; "is it true your brother had complications because he got vaccinated?" I was shocked from this question but I still had to verify to be 100% sure. My only question to my mother was if my brother was vaccinated or not and she confirmed he wasn't.
My brother past away 3 years later at the age of 12. It was 3 painful years with a hospital bed at home with many machines and a surgery or visit at the hospital every few months.
If he just had the damn vaccine...
Wow. My doctor kept claiming this throughout the measles outbreak this year. Saying that people who are doing measles parties have no idea what they are doing to their children.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2876 on: April 26, 2020, 09:59:13 PM »
I don't want to go into the whole discussion of vaccines but if I can change the mind of one person/family then it's worth it:
My young brother wasn't vaccinated for the measles and he got it when he was a young baby. He was then completely healthy until the age of 9 when we realized something was wrong. After many tests, scans & MRI, the doctor found that it was a rare complication of the measles that comes out only years later and no one till that day recovered from it. The body just stop functioning in many stages and people were able to stay alive for a maximum of 8 years with an average of 4 years. This happens 1 in 10M measles cases.
I don't remember all the details, the name of this complication, and why my brother wasn't vaccinated for the measles (although we were all vaccinated in my family), and I don't want to ask my parents any questions about it.
Someone called me a few months ago after there was a big controversy in CH about vaccines and ask me; "is it true your brother had complications because he got vaccinated?" I was shocked from this question but I still had to verify to be 100% sure. My only question to my mother was if my brother was vaccinated or not and she confirmed he wasn't.
My brother past away 3 years later at the age of 12. It was 3 painful years with a hospital bed at home with many machines and a surgery or visit at the hospital every few months.
If he just had the damn vaccine...
If he got it younger than 12 months it would be because he was younger than the recommended vaccine age.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2877 on: April 26, 2020, 10:05:49 PM »
If he got it younger than 12 months it would be because he was younger than the recommended vaccine age.
He didn't.
I have a daughter, I know when we give vaccines.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2878 on: April 26, 2020, 10:06:42 PM »
He didn't.
I have a daughter, I know when we give vaccines.
Okay. You wrote young baby.....
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2879 on: April 26, 2020, 10:08:07 PM »
Anyways anyone under 1 who gets measles probably got it from someone over 1...
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