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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

Poll

Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

Yes (Shot)
115 (37.5%)
Yes (Nasal Spray)
5 (1.6%)
No
187 (60.9%)

Total Members Voted: 305

Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 316803 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2920 on: December 24, 2020, 05:56:25 PM »
At least 1,008,025 Americans had received their first dose of the vaccine as of 9 a.m. Wednesday, according to a tally from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

There have been 9,465,725 doses distributed across the country thus far, as production of the vaccines pick up pace.

This is seriously messed up. It doesnít help to have more supply if we can only vaccinate a million ppl a week. At that rate it will take 300 weeks.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2921 on: December 24, 2020, 07:22:19 PM »
This is seriously messed up. It doesnít help to have more supply if we can only vaccinate a million ppl a week. At that rate it will take 300 weeks.

1. Theyíre only vaccinating certain people, so itís not a line where anyone can get, they have to screen for eligibility etc.
2. Theyíre just warming up (no pun intended) the complex distribution chain.
3. This was at fewer than 1000 locations across the country, if they shipped to 10,000 they could have vaccinated many more people.

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Which Gedoilim are against vaccinating for the corona virus ?
« Reply #2922 on: January 05, 2021, 03:52:11 PM »
Does anyone have a list which Gedoilim, Rabbonim and Poskim are against vaccinating for covid-19 ?

I know the Amshinover rebbe, R. Schmuel Katz Lakewood, Satmer,  Rav Kotler Lakewook, R.Schmuel Kapinsky,
R.Elijohu Dov Wachvogel, R.Kook from Tveria, Soifer from Usa, - are forbidding to vaccinate against covid-19

I'd be grateful if you can correct my spelling mistakes on writing the names of these Gedoilim.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2021, 05:01:25 PM by kosherjid »

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2923 on: January 05, 2021, 03:56:47 PM »
Sassover.
Which Satmar is against ?

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2924 on: January 05, 2021, 04:01:56 PM »
Whatís the point of this thread?
Iím not sure any good is gonna come out of this.
Just ask your own Rabbi and finished.
Unless you wanna count all the rabbis on each side and pasken like the roiv

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2925 on: January 05, 2021, 04:03:08 PM »
Forbidding? If you mean r Shmuel Kamiunetsky he wrote a letter saying explicitly otherwise.

Are any of these different for COVID than for other vaccines?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2926 on: January 05, 2021, 04:03:33 PM »
Whatís the point of this thread?
Iím not sure any good is gonna come out of this.
Just ask your own Rabbi and finished.
Unless you wanna count all the rabbis on each side and pasken like the roiv
Do we follow רוב when dealing with pikuach nefesh ? :)

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2927 on: January 05, 2021, 04:13:16 PM »
Sassover.
Which Satmar is against ?

Reb Schmuel Zev Sarger.  Please correct my spelling mistakes. Thank you.

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2928 on: January 05, 2021, 04:17:28 PM »
Whatís the point of this thread?
Iím not sure any good is gonna come out of this.
Just ask your own Rabbi and finished.
Unless you wanna count all the rabbis on each side and pasken like the roiv

?  are you serious ?
We're talking about taking a vaccine, that was approved after two months, that has zero liability.
Don't you think I have an obligation to know ?

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2929 on: January 05, 2021, 04:19:32 PM »
?  are you serious ?
We're talking about taking a vaccine, that was approved after two months, that has zero liability.
Don't you think I have an obligation to know ?
You might want to fact check your statements.

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2930 on: January 05, 2021, 04:19:52 PM »
Please fix the thread title.

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2931 on: January 05, 2021, 04:23:09 PM »
Forbidding? If you mean r Shmuel Kamiunetsky he wrote a letter saying explicitly otherwise.

Are any of these different for COVID than for other vaccines?

I didn't say R Schmuel Kaminetzki. 


It took 17 years to develop the vaccine for Hepatitis B
It took 22 years to develop the vaccine for Hepatitis A
It took 46 years to develop the vaccine for measles
It took 45 years to develop the vaccine for polio

And it took two months to develop the vaccine for Covid-19


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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2932 on: January 05, 2021, 04:23:50 PM »
You might want to fact check your statements.

Please explain what you mean. Thank you

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2933 on: January 05, 2021, 04:24:09 PM »
I didn't say R Schmuel Kaminetzki. 


It took 17 years to develop the vaccine for Hepatitis B
It took 22 years to develop the vaccine for Hepatitis A
It took 46 years to develop the vaccine for measles
It took 45 years to develop the vaccine for polio

And it took two months to develop the vaccine for Covid-19
Let's say.

So?

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2934 on: January 05, 2021, 04:33:07 PM »
Reb Schmuel Zev Sarger. 
Who is this ?
Please correct my spelling mistakes.
Why ?

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2935 on: January 05, 2021, 04:36:30 PM »
Let's say.

So?

Sorry ?
The normal procedure on approving a vaccine is doing a research, which normally takes from two to five years.
After the research they start doing lab test on live tissues, then on live tissues of animals, which takes two years.
Then they experiment on humans, which takes about ten years.

The vaccine against covid-19 has been approved after two months.  No research. No testing.

When you buy something online, you check the positive and negative reports. Don't you ?
Think about it. 

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2936 on: January 05, 2021, 04:36:36 PM »
I didn't say R Schmuel Kaminetzki. 


It took 17 years to develop the vaccine for Hepatitis B
It took 22 years to develop the vaccine for Hepatitis A
It took 46 years to develop the vaccine for measles
It took 45 years to develop the vaccine for polio

And it took two months to develop the vaccine for Covid-19
You might want to speak to these rabbonim how they feel about these other vaccines. Don't think their covid opinion is for the reason you seem to believe it is.

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2937 on: January 05, 2021, 04:37:19 PM »
Please fix the misleading thread title
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר Ė יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2938 on: January 05, 2021, 04:37:30 PM »
Sorry ?
The normal procedure on approving a vaccine is doing a research, which normally takes from two to five years.
After the research they start doing lab test on live tissues, then on live tissues of animals, which takes two years.
Then they experiment on humans, which takes about ten years.

The vaccine against covid-19 has been approved after two months.  No research. No testing.

When you buy something online, you check the positive and negative reports. Don't you ?
Think about it.
No tests? Hmmm... Do you need links?  :P

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Re: Rabbonim Gedoilim Poskim
« Reply #2939 on: January 05, 2021, 04:38:33 PM »
Who is this ?Why ?

Satmer.  I don't know the correct spelling.