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Facts
The flu vaccine causes more deaths per year than chicken pox.
The direct injection of RSV immunoglobulin, commonly known as the "RSV vaccine" would prevent 16x more deaths than the flu vaccine does, but is too expensive.
There is a vaccine for the plague, and that is why it is no longer an epidemic.
Ebola is caused by vaccines.
There is a vaccine for autism, but it causes mumps.


Opinions
Vaccines do not contain thimerosal, a known toxin.
If you snuck up on your neighbor's kid and cut open his skull, you would be arrested.  But when brain surgeons do it, and charge hundreds of thousands of dollars, it considered "medicine."
99% of vaccines do not cause autism (HT JJ1000).
Every pedi has seen healthy kids become sick physically & mentally hours after a vax (HT Baryochai)
Vaccines cause cancer, infertility, astma, adhd etc (HT Baryochai)

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Did You Get The Flu Vaccine This Winter?

Yes (Shot)
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Yes (Nasal Spray)
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No
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Author Topic: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread  (Read 568683 times)

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2880 on: April 26, 2020, 10:09:19 PM »
If he got it younger than 12 months it would be because he was younger than the recommended vaccine age.
by an outbreak they do give sometimes under 12 months

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2881 on: April 26, 2020, 10:25:36 PM »
by an outbreak they do give sometimes under 12 months
This year they recommended giving it at 6 months

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2882 on: April 26, 2020, 11:21:39 PM »
Okay. You wrote young baby.....
Yea... He was always my little baby... :'(

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2883 on: April 27, 2020, 06:38:20 AM »
I don't want to go into the whole discussion of vaccines but if I can change the mind of one person/family then it's worth it:
My young brother wasn't vaccinated for the measles and he got it when he was a young baby. He was then completely healthy until the age of 9 when we realized something was wrong. After many tests, scans & MRI, the doctor found that it was a rare complication of the measles that comes out only years later and no one till that day recovered from it. The body just stop functioning in many stages and people were able to stay alive for a maximum of 8 years with an average of 4 years. This happens 1 in 10M measles cases.
I don't remember all the details, the name of this complication, and why my brother wasn't vaccinated for the measles (although we were all vaccinated in my family), and I don't want to ask my parents any questions about it.
Someone called me a few months ago after there was a big controversy in CH about vaccines and ask me; "is it true your brother had complications because he got vaccinated?" I was shocked from this question but I still had to verify to be 100% sure. My only question to my mother was if my brother was vaccinated or not and she confirmed he wasn't.
My brother past away 3 years later at the age of 12. It was 3 painful years with a hospital bed at home with many machines and a surgery or visit at the hospital every few months.
If he just had the damn vaccine...
What a devastating story, I am so sorry for your loss - and thank you for being willing to share it. Most likely he developed subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) a rare but known complication of measles that occurs years after the infection clears.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2884 on: April 27, 2020, 07:55:11 AM »
What a devastating story, I am so sorry for your loss - and thank you for being willing to share it. Most likely he developed subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) a rare but known complication of measles that occurs years after the infection clears.
I believe is this one. Thanks for putting it.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2888 on: May 24, 2020, 11:01:49 PM »
Holy cow.

https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/05/letter-unmasked-kamtza-bar-kamtza-2-0.html
Imagine your life revolving so closely around vaccine issues that you come up with this. Astounding.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2889 on: May 24, 2020, 11:13:59 PM »
Imagine your life revolving so closely around vaccine issues that you come up with this. Astounding.
Somehow there are so many of these supposedly written by people who are very pro vaccine.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2890 on: May 25, 2020, 01:00:33 AM »
Somehow there are so many of these supposedly written by people who are very pro vaccine.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2891 on: June 06, 2020, 10:21:31 PM »
Another Peach Mom wacko anti vaxxer mag mailed out in Lakewood.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2892 on: June 06, 2020, 10:51:04 PM »
Does that mean we’ll be seeing dr Robert’s fish tank some this week? 🙄

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2893 on: June 06, 2020, 11:07:47 PM »
Maybe. Pretty crazy fearmongering.

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Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2894 on: June 07, 2020, 12:08:09 AM »
Another Peach Mom wacko anti vaxxer mag mailed out in Lakewood.
They're riding the current wave of contempt for the medical establishment; 75% of Lakewood is currently flouting the medical recommendation of social distancing and masks ("Corona is over").

Wouldn't shock me to see a non-zero amount of currently vaccinating parents to "switch sides". The 'blind' trust has been broken, it's a slippery slope for many people; hard for many who aren't educated to differentiate between the current Covid-19 state of "doctors don't know much" and all the other proven medical knowledge.
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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2895 on: June 07, 2020, 12:20:30 AM »
Riding the current wave of contempt for the medical establishment; 75% of Lakewood is currently flouting the medical recommendation of social distancing and masks ("Corona is over").

Wouldn't shock me to see a non-zero amount of currently vaccinating parents to "switch sides". The 'blind' trust has been broken, it's a slippery slope for many people; hard for many who aren't educated to differentiate between the current Covid-19 state of "doctors don't know much" and all the other proven medical knowledge.
Have to agree. The anti vaccine wackos are sensing the vulnerability of the Lakewood doctors and exploiting it for all its worth. The physicians are unfortunately shooting themselves in the foot by insisting on strict SD guidelines that are out of touch with the reality on the ground. They should really be weighing the potential impact to their credibility going forward even if they are technically correct in their position. חכם עיניו בראשו

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2896 on: June 07, 2020, 12:25:41 AM »
Have to agree. The anti vaccine wackos are sensing the vulnerability of the Lakewood doctors and exploiting it for all its worth. The physicians are unfortunately shooting themselves in the foot by insisting on strict SD guidelines that are out of touch with the reality on the ground. They should really be weighing the potential impact to their credibility going forward even if they are technically correct in their position. חכם עיניו בראשו
As someone who's still practicing strict SD, I hate to agree with you - but you're probably right. I just hope it's not too late.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2897 on: June 07, 2020, 12:45:01 AM »
Maybe. Pretty crazy fearmongering.


There are vaccines with known serious, but fairly rare, side effects. Nobody should be denying that.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2898 on: June 07, 2020, 12:47:46 AM »
There are vaccines with known serious, but fairly rare, side effects. Nobody should be denying that.
That wouldn't change whether or not it is
Pretty crazy fearmongering.

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Re: Vaccine Discussion Master Thread
« Reply #2899 on: June 07, 2020, 01:02:28 AM »
Hard to accuse ppl of fearmongering who have seen their kids affected like that