Odyssey vs Sienna

[thaber]

These vans run perfectly 10 years later, I guess I never understood the leasing obsession.

There's a different thread for that

[Dan]

Indeed.
Either way our 5 year old Ody is still wonderful.

[Ergel]

Indeed.
Either way our 5 year old Ody is still wonderful.

+1 (ours is 3.5 YO. As is our 5.5 YO sonata)

[cozmohoot]

Why do I feel that the hemishe dealers (Brooklyn-Lakewood) are pushing the Toyota Sienna over Honda Odyssey for buying?

Overall it looks like the Honda Odyssey has better reviews.

You didn't mention used or new...
With used, the Odyssey cost more at auctions so the heimeshe dealers don't buy them.

[Baruch]

I'v heard from more than 1 frumme mechanic in Lakewood (they don't lease or sell new cars), that Toyota Siennas from 2007 and on, just never break. They see much more Odysseys needing repair than Siennas.

[yelped]

According to dealer that I spoke to,

Excluding this month the Sienna has been consistently cheaper the the Odyssey.

The Honda leasing program has become less attractive. ( There are cheaper companies FE: Kia etc but they don't result in cheaper leases ) the abuse of the heimishe crowd had a lot to do with it.

As a btw he claimed that the Sienna keeps its values better citing multiple used minivans as an example.

Abuse? Of what?

[Zalc]

We went from a Oddessy to a Sienna with AWD, and everything else is minor now that you don't need to worry about getting stuck at the slightest hint of bad weather.

Wonder if Honda will ever give AWD a go?

[Cheesecake]

I don't pretend to know how leasing works, but in general when many people are recommending something that doesn't conform with how the product is rated you should follow the money.

I thought we were talking about used.

[Cheesecake]

1) MWAHAHAHA!!!
2) No one is gonna blame their dealer if the car is a bad drive or such. They'll hate the car company instead.

Remind me not to buy a used car from you.

[Yammer]

Abuse? Of what?

1500 waiver etc.

[thaber]

1500 waiver etc.

and that caused Honda prices to go up nationwide??

[Super Speed]

1500 waiver etc.

Honda did away with their own waivers a few years back...

[Yammer]

Honda did away with their own waivers a few years back...

All part of excessive use...

[noturbizniss]

Agreed.
CR agrees as well.

I assume they were talking about the 2017 and prior model and not the just announced 2018 model?

These vans run perfectly 10 years later, I guess I never understood the leasing obsession.

Im hoping oto follow my FIL method - he's leasing for 3 years and then buying out. the total cost of lease, plus DP+ buyout is less than upfront buying.  Hope to get that for a 2018 odyssey SCE (Sam's Club Edition)

[Dan]

What were your FILs numbers?

[noturbizniss]

What were your FILs numbers?

he actually got a sonata. i don't recall. I can ask him. I know he got the lowest mileage option

[mgarfin]

I assume they were talking about the 2017 and prior model and not the just announced 2018 model?Im hoping oto follow my FIL method - he's leasing for 3 years and then buying out. the total cost of lease, plus DP+ buyout is less than upfront buying.  Hope to get that for a 2018 odyssey SCE (Sam's Club Edition)

If you need financing, at buyout rates is usually much higher.

he actually got a sonata. i don't recall. I can ask him. I know he got the lowest mileage option

I assume if you buyout they dont care for the mileage.

Do they calculate the buyout cost acording to the mileage you are allowed?

[noturbizniss]

If you need financing, at buyout rates is usually much higher.

sounds right. Definitely a factor to consider

I assume if you buyout they dont care for the mileage.
Do they calculate the buyout cost acording to the mileage you are allowed?

I will ask him. I know he said they won't charge for over mileage at the end.

[cozmohoot]

The buyout price doesn't change if you finance it or pay cash. You may have to pay a little interest but rates are very low right now.
Buyout is on the lease contract and doesn't change.

[Super Speed]

Do they calculate the buyout cost acording to the mileage you are allowed?

Of course