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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #860 on: March 29, 2016, 11:34:22 AM »


That you can judge someones judaism and conversion based on how they dress is odd and bizarre..
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Apparently, Rav Moshe (mentioned upthread) did not find it so "odd and bizzare"- he has a lengthy responsa about it- though as mentioned he does conclude that בדיעבד it's probably a valid geirus.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #861 on: March 29, 2016, 12:18:58 PM »
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner celebrated Kushnerís 31st birthday with an intimate dinner rather than a blowout Tuesday, when they were seen at ďa cozy corner tableĒ at Jesse Schenkerís West Village hot spot Recette. Spies say the pair nibbled on hamachi with uni, fluke with shellfish congee and símores with graham cracker ice cream, topped off by a candle. Trump then presented her hubby with two maroon Polo Ralph Lauren waffle shirts and other gifts.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #862 on: March 29, 2016, 12:31:20 PM »


Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner celebrated Kushnerís 31st birthday with an intimate dinner rather than a blowout Tuesday, when they were seen at ďa cozy corner tableĒ at Jesse Schenkerís West Village hot spot Recette. Spies say the pair nibbled on hamachi with uni, fluke with shellfish congee and símores with graham cracker ice cream, topped off by a candle. Trump then presented her hubby with two maroon Polo Ralph Lauren waffle shirts and other gifts.

Oh well. I guess they are more modern then I thought. She was still probably mekabel ol mitzvos..
 Jared definitely should not be eating shelfish cogeeee. Ugh.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #863 on: March 29, 2016, 12:38:07 PM »
I haven't seen a single picture of Jared in a yarmulka.  Even when they were walking to shul on shabbos.
Btw trump's son Eric is also married to a Jew.  They just don't have any kids yet.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #864 on: March 29, 2016, 12:40:54 PM »
I haven't seen a single picture of Jared in a yarmulka.  Even when they were walking to shul on shabbos.
Btw trump's son Eric is also married to a Jew.  They just don't have any kids yet.
Yarmulka doesn't make you Jewish and VV.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #865 on: March 29, 2016, 01:02:26 PM »
Yarmulka doesn't make you Jewish and VV.
I'm not questioning that.
As far as I'm concerned they're both jewish.  She converted with an orthodox beis din.  I'm just surprised because it was always reported that he's orthodox.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #866 on: March 29, 2016, 01:09:52 PM »
Spies say the pair nibbled on hamachi with uni, fluke with shellfish congee and símores with graham cracker ice cream, topped off by a candle.
Keyword is "nibbled". Maybe they were being makpid to eat פחות מכשיעור

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #867 on: March 29, 2016, 01:15:31 PM »
Trump's campaign manager was arrested this morning for battering the reporter a few weeks ago.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #868 on: March 29, 2016, 01:22:43 PM »
I'm not questioning that.
As far as I'm concerned they're both jewish.  She converted with an orthodox beis din.  I'm just surprised because it was always reported that he's orthodox.
Maybe he is open Orthodox.
We are being so judgmental.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #869 on: March 29, 2016, 01:23:28 PM »
Probably a complete ones on the tznius issue. - she belongs to a modern Orthodox community that for the most part disregards the whole concept.
Seriously? Just when I thought you couldn't possibly go any lower...

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #870 on: March 29, 2016, 01:25:10 PM »
Seriously? Just when I thought you couldn't possibly go any lower...
Tell us how the woman in her modern Orthodox shul dress.

Please tell me she is the outlier.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #871 on: March 29, 2016, 01:27:42 PM »
Tell us how the woman in her modern Orthodox shul dress.

Please tell me she is the outlier.
You're making a blanket statement and calling out an entire community. That would be like me saying that every single Jew that lives in Lakewood is a [insert the many names that it would be appropriate to call you but in the interest of keeping it PG, I won't] because you are. That wouldn't be right to all the others, would it?

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #872 on: March 29, 2016, 01:29:14 PM »
You're making a blanket statement and calling out an entire community. That would be like me saying that every single Jew that lives in Lakewood is a [insert the many names that it would be appropriate to call you but in the interest of keeping it PG, I won't] because you are. That wouldn't be right to all the others, would it?
A blanket statement about the community SHE belongs to. I'm sure it's only a couple of hundred members tops.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #873 on: March 29, 2016, 01:35:36 PM »
A blanket statement about the community SHE belongs to. I'm sure it's only a couple of hundred members tops.
Still wrong.

It's incredible with how selective you are in terms of which parts of the Torah you follow. Good thing you were born Jewish (I'm assuming) and didn't convert, because otherwise many people here would be saying that you're not really Jewish either since you never intended on keeping all 613. (On the other hand, that would probably be a good thing considering the fact that you're a disgrace to our religion.)

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #874 on: March 29, 2016, 01:41:57 PM »
Still wrong.

It's incredible with how selective you are in terms of which parts of the Torah you follow. Good thing you were born Jewish (I'm assuming) and didn't convert, because otherwise many people here would be saying that you're not really Jewish either since you never intended on keeping all 613. (On the other hand, that would probably be a good thing considering the fact that you're a disgrace to our religion.)
You don't seem to even know what I am saying. So im not gonna bother figuring out what you are..

Seems you still bent out of shape about TE.. Oh well you'll get over it I hope.

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #875 on: March 29, 2016, 02:17:59 PM »
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Apparently, Rav Moshe (mentioned upthread) did not find it so "odd and bizzare"- he has a lengthy responsa about it- though as mentioned he does conclude that בדיעבד it's probably a valid geirus.

You're still trying to judge based on very little actual knowledge. I don't even understand why.

What she does now is not a reflection on what she was mekabel so much as it is a reflection of what her community standards are.
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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #876 on: March 29, 2016, 02:25:07 PM »
You're still trying to judge based on very little actual knowledge. I don't even understand why.

What she does now is not a reflection on what she was mekabel so much as it is a reflection of what her community standards are.
Excuse me- I was responding to someone's assertion that practiced and intended manner of dress (even at time of geirus) should have no effect on conversion status- which you enthusiastically agreed to.

Well Rav Moshe was not so convinced..

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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #877 on: March 29, 2016, 03:05:22 PM »
Everybody is goyim and kofrim. We're all going to hell. Cheers. :)
Who do you think you are fooling? You think you are going to pull a quick one on your Creator? Good luck with that.
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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #878 on: March 29, 2016, 03:33:44 PM »
Everybody is goyim and kofrim. We're all going to hell. Cheers. :)
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Re: GOP Master thread
« Reply #879 on: March 29, 2016, 03:42:08 PM »
Only ציונים are  ;)
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