The Future of Lakewood

[EliJelly]

B"H the article doesn't focus too much on Lakewood. I was expecting much worse

You were expecting worse because we're used to bad press. In reality, extending this story to all of Lakewood is as bizarre as extending the Rex Heuermann story to all of Long Island.

[zh cohen]

A few ppl keep saying that his sefer had an agenda bec of his sisters get being withheld.
but honestly it has nothing to do with that, even though ppl call that an עגונה thats not what הל עגונות is about.

I know nothing about the Sefer, and nothing about the story, but some of the halachos that might be used to be matir an aguna might apply to some situations of a get being withheld.

[liosac]

This is something I’ve been wondering about. What in the world would סימן י״ז have to do with getting his sister a Get?
@avromie7

It is eyebrow raising that the Sefer was published one year into his sisters saga.

[avromie7]

This is something I’ve been wondering about. What in the world would סימן י״ז have to do with getting his sister a Get?
@avromie7

I never opened that "sefer", but the irony of someone involved and not worrying about halachah writing a "sefer" on the topic is more than just eyebrow raising.

[imayid2]

but some of the halachos that might be used to be matir an aguna might apply to some situations of a get being withheld.

Such as?

[imayid2]

It is eyebrow raising that the Sefer was published one year into his sisters saga.

Not disagreeing, I imagine it’s related just trying to understand how.

[JMHO]

I never opened that "sefer", but the irony of someone involved and not worrying about halachah writing a "sefer" on the topic is more than just eyebrow raising.

Why is it a 'sefer' and not a sefer?

[avromie7]

Why is it a 'sefer' and not a sefer?

Because it was concocted to serve an agenda without regard for actual halacha by someone who apparently doesn't care about halacha

[JMHO]

Because it was concocted to serve an agenda without regard for actual halacha by someone who apparently doesn't care about halacha

This is reminding me of the CW books...

[avromie7]

This is reminding me of the CW books...

There at least the books were good...

[S209]

There at least the books were good...

I never opened that "sefer"

[imayid2]

at least the books were good...

You literaly just said

I never opened that "sefer

So for all you know it's very good too

[Euclid]

Let him enjoy this

[liosac]

I never opened that "sefer", but the irony of someone involved and not worrying about halachah writing a "sefer" on the topic is more than just eyebrow raising.

It isn’t the only irony.

Interestingly, in the הקדמה to his ספר which he wrote over a decade ago, he quotes the chazal במקום שבעלי תשובה עומדים אין צדיקים גמורים יכולים לעמוד as a מליצה, but perhaps those words will prove to be relevant for him in the literal sense as he takes stock of the path he has gone down and where it has led him.

[imayid2]

Interestingly, in the הקדמה to his ספר which he wrote over a decade ago, he quotes the chazal במקום שבעלי תשובה עומדים אין צדיקים גמורים יכולים לעמוד as a מליצה, but perhaps those words will prove to be relevant for him in the literal sense as he takes stock of the path he has gone down and where it has led him.

ואכן על משקל מאמרם ז"ל ברכות לד מקום שבעלי תשובה עומדין צדיקים גמורים אינם עומדין ידועה מליצת האחרונים בענין הלכות עגונות שלא יתכן אף לת"ח גדולים צדיקים גמורים לרדת לסוף דבריהם של ספרי השו"ת בעלי תשובה הדנים בעומקן של הלכות סבוכות אלו מבלי להקדים ולהתמצא היטב בסוגיות הגט ושיטות הראשונים ומילתא בטעמא על אתר ואשר על כן בעינא למודעי שחלילה למאן דהוא לסמוך על שום נקודה בספר הזה להלכה ולמעשה כי כאמור עיקר ההלכה הפסוקה מיוסדת על בסיס הידיעה האיתנה וההבנה הנכונה בנבכי הסוגיות האמורות ורק על יסוד איתן זה יתכן להעמיק חקר בדברי גדולי הפוסקים ולרדת לסוף כוונתם על מנת להסיק מסקנות להלכה ובפרט למעשה בבירור הדיעות וביותר כדי לצרפן בכוחא דהיתרא כידוע

[tzifanya54]

Sounds like someone who was פורק מעליו עול מלכות שמים to me.

Scary that someone who possesses the כשרון and delved deep into the intricacies of Torah to put out the work that he did, on one of the most difficult Halachik topics (agenda or no agenda), can fall so low.

It was always an intellectual challenge for him..... In yeshivah he was also very much a dual personality.

[Alexsei]

It was always an intellectual challenge for him..... In yeshivah he was also very much a dual personality.

the only question is which personality is the real one

[Euclid]

the only question is which personality is the real one

He used the wrong terminology, he doesn't have a "dual personality". It was more that he had competing interests.

[Alexsei]

He used the wrong terminology, he doesn't have a "dual personality". It was more that he had competing interests.

Wow, like a yetzer tov and a yetzer hora?
When did it start? When he turned 13?

[Euclid]

Wow, like a yetzer tov and a yetzer hora?
When did it start? When he turned 13?

Na he took it to an extreme. His MO remained the same - top guy in learning, hanging out with non Jewish girls; since his teenage years. I thought he settled down after marriage, so I was shocked when this story came out - but was not at all surprised.