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What are blockchains and bitcoins and what is the difference?
A blockchain is the fundamental element in a crypto currency system. A blockchain is an accounting ledger. Each block contains a bunch of journal entries (i.e. a chronological record of transactions) that gets encrypted (by miners) but can be downloaded and read by anyone on the network. Why the blockchain ledger is secure and how we can vouch for its integrity is a slightly more advanced topic.

An accounting ledger typically keeps track of money, and a blockchain is no different. But the only type of money that it can accurately track is digital money that lives on the blockchain network. So dollars, euros, etc are out. The digital money that lives on the blockchain is called a crypto currency, and the most well-known one at this time is Bitcoin.

Currently there are a few major blockchain networks: the Bitcoin Network, the Ethereum Network, and the Litecoin Network. Each one has its own currency, which are Bitcoin, Ether, and Litecoin, respectively.

I’m just a simple DDFer and not an accountant + cryptographer + hacker all at the same time. Can you make this a little simpler to understand?
Let’s try an analogy. There is a certain website called Dansdeals.com and it has quite a following. Some of the followers are just users/readers but others are more active and produce value for the website. When they provide value, they earn currency for their work – called “EQP” and “HT”. So we have something we will call the Dansdeals Blockchain Network that is simply a record keeper of various ongoing deals and it issues a native currency that is fractionable (10,000 EQP = 1 HT). This is similar to the Blockchain network recording financial transactions and issuing bitcoins. The ones who work for the network (miners) earn bitcoins and everyone else needs to buy it to participate.

The analogy improves if you imagine that the Dansdeals website visitors have to pay a small amount, let’s say 5 EQP, in order to access a deal or a code that is recorded on the network. If the website has 30,000 followers who love deals, but only 1,000 active members who earn EQP, then you can see that there is a need for a marketplace to be created where you can buy EQP for later use.

Of course, websites are not networks, and this analogy is far from perfect. But useful.

How much is a Bitcoin worth
No one knows. A few people are speculating its worth based on the potential that Bitcoin will one day become a major world currency that people use in their daily lives. Most people though are speculating its worth based on what the next new investor will pay them for it (google “Greater Fool Investing”).

Even if a crypto currency becomes dominant, who says it will be Bitcoin? Maybe it will be Schmitcoin?
This is completely possible. Bitcoin and Ether are the most likely at this point, but their long term survival is not at all guaranteed.

So why all the fuss about Bitcoin? Shouldn’t we wait for Schmitcoin and its cousins to come out?
You could, but you don’t want to ignore how hard it is to start up a network from scratch. It may be that as little as one person can create rival code to compete with the existing digital currencies and blockchains, but one person is not a network. You need a lot of highly technical and motivated people to join you and also to invest their time, energy, and money in making that network run. It’s a highly specialized group of people, and most of the people who would fit that profile are already tied up with an existing network. So it’s not impossible, especially in the long-term, but even if it does happen it would be unlikely to pop up overnight and so Vegas odds for Bitcoin are way shorter.

Let’s go back to the Dansdeals analogy. Imagine that Dansdeals is not the only such website, and there are other websites in existence that provide similar services. For the sake of the analogy let’s call them MMS and OMAAT. They too have big enough followings to survive independently, and even though each one offers a slightly different flavor that differentiates them, anyone on one of the networks could also get their most important needs met on one of the other networks. In this analogy, do you think it’s worth collecting EQP/HT or not? After all, Schmansdeals.com could open up one day and all the business could move there.

The argument for the difficulty of starting up a rival blockchain network is much stronger than in the analogy (especially if we start to include “smart contracts” in the discussion), but the basic idea that you need a critical mass of follows to be successful and compete with existing rivals is the same.

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1880 on: November 20, 2022, 10:09:07 AM »
Krugman predicted the demise of the internet in the 90s, so you can keep that in mind when he discusses anything tech-related (even if you don't want to use it as a general barometer of his analytical capabilities...)
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1882 on: November 20, 2022, 10:31:24 AM »
I am confused. Where does Krugman make it about politics?
Out is literally the first paragraph at the link you posted

Right-wing libertarians and socially conservative MAGA Republicans disagree about many things, but one thing they do have in common is an affection for cryptocurrencies. It isn’t hard to find people on the right who are unapologetically bullish on cryptocurrencies.
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« Reply #1883 on: November 20, 2022, 10:33:26 AM »
Out is literally the first paragraph at the link you posted

Right-wing libertarians and socially conservative MAGA Republicans disagree about many things, but one thing they do have in common is an affection for cryptocurrencies. It isn’t hard to find people on the right who are unapologetically bullish on cryptocurrencies.
That is the authors commentary not Krugman.
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« Reply #1884 on: November 20, 2022, 10:41:24 AM »
That is the authors commentary not Krugman.
Ah I didn't get further than that.
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« Reply #1885 on: November 20, 2022, 10:46:23 AM »
Ah I didn't get further than that.
Now you sound like me.  :)
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1886 on: November 20, 2022, 02:40:00 PM »
I don't agree with the curve as much. I think far right nuts are often in the same health barometer as left nuts.. both are anti vaccine, both are all natural stuff

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1888 on: November 29, 2022, 03:03:10 PM »
Is this sarcastic, or is it helpful to explain that FTX was pretending to have assets when they didn't. Nothing to do with the value of bitcoin itself. More like Enron than Lehman. The dollar didnt become worthless when Enron got caught padding their balance sheet

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« Reply #1891 on: December 02, 2022, 08:15:48 AM »
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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1894 on: December 12, 2022, 06:57:40 PM »
SBF arrested!

Will his sentence be longer than Madoff's?

Will the people who lost money recover anything close to what Madoff victims recovered?
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« Reply #1895 on: December 12, 2022, 07:08:32 PM »
SBF arrested!

Will his sentence be longer than Madoff's?

Will the people who lost money recover anything close to what Madoff victims recovered?
Should we wait for the trial first?
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« Reply #1896 on: December 12, 2022, 07:10:39 PM »
Should we wait for the trial first?

Absolutely. Can't put the carriage before the horses. But we can still speculate/guess/bet.
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« Reply #1897 on: December 12, 2022, 07:12:32 PM »
SBF arrested!

Will his sentence be longer than Madoff's?

Will the people who lost money recover anything close to what Madoff victims recovered?
What’s going to be with his testifying for congress tomorrow?

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Re: BitCoin Master Thread
« Reply #1898 on: December 12, 2022, 07:14:50 PM »
What’s going to be with his testifying for congress tomorrow?

Does he have an attorney at this point?

I would guess any competent attorney would tell him to remain silent.
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« Reply #1899 on: December 12, 2022, 07:39:36 PM »
Does he have an attorney at this point?

I would guess any competent attorney would tell him to remain silent.

He hasn't said anything of value, he's just pretending to be dumb and the dems are eating it up. Oh, and both his parents are Stanford law professors.
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