Will the truth come out how this administration made blunder after blunder?

[JMHO]

Let's start with the child example. We're not talking about children. We're talking adults to adults. Just because they're Canadian doesn't mean they're somehow less self-sufficient.

Regarding the answers you're seeing, the thread is about administration blunders. From a political perspective, the administration answers to the people of the US and is responsible for their well-being. They would be derelict in their duty if they sent vital equipment out of the country to the detriment of US lives.

Regarding states sending equipment to NYC, it depends on the details. Who owns the equipment?  Is it the state? Is it private healthcare providers? Is it federally owned but on loan or stored in certain states? You also have certain states that are virtually guaranteed to not get hit nearly as hard as NY, both by virtue of population density and by the benefit of learning from NY's mistakes and taking extra precautions earlier.

Well said. Let's not twist this any more.

[CountValentine]

I never said this was a blunder by the administration. You learn by asking questions. Unfortunately I am saddened by what I just learned. Lets move on.

[Dan]

I never said this was a blunder by the administration. You learn by asking questions. Unfortunately I am saddened by what I just learned. Lets move on.

You have one dose of medicine. You can save your parent or you can give it to a stranger in need. Either will die without it.
Who gets it?

[Lurker]

I never said this was a blunder by the administration. You learn by asking questions. Unfortunately I am saddened by what I just learned. Lets move on.

As a head of household, responsible for the wellbeing of your family, would you send out life saving equipment your family might need? What if you were virtually guaranteed to need it in the very near future?

[CountValentine]

You have one dose of medicine. You can save your parent or you can give it to a stranger in need. Either will die without it.
Who gets it?

Your parent.
You have food that will last you for a month. Your neighbors are starving. Do you share some of it with them?

[CountValentine]

As a head of household, responsible for the wellbeing of your family, would you send out life saving equipment your family might need? What if you were virtually guaranteed to need it in the very near future?

Yes with the belief I will find more when the time comes.

[Dan]

Your parent.
You have food that will last you for a month. Your neighbors are starving. Do you share some of it with them?

So this is semantics. No hospital in the country has this kind of excess PPE now. If they did then you would be correct.

My father works at the VA and other than a couple kind patients bringing in some N95s or him buying on ebay at 1000% markups, there are none to be found.

[CountValentine]

So this is semantics.

Your question was semantics also. I gave you a straight answer. I guess it was to much for me to expect the same in return.

[Dan]

Your question was semantics also. I gave you a straight answer. I guess it was to much for me to expect the same in return.

If they did then you would be correct.

[aygart]

Yes with the belief I will find more when the time comes.

What if the time is right now?

[Lurker]

I think the difference in opinion here stems from two missing pieces of data: a) how soon will we need it ourselves, and b) how soon can we replace it?

[Dan]

I think the difference in opinion here stems from two missing pieces of data: a) how soon will we need it ourselves, and b) how soon can we replace it?

Exactly.
The US currently doesn't have enough to supply its own hospitals for one day. You don't give charity when you don't have food to feed your kids dinner tonight.

If we had a 30 day supply, then absolutely, give charity.

[CountValentine]

I think the difference in opinion here stems from two missing pieces of data: a) how soon will we need it ourselves, and b) how soon can we replace it?

The difference in opinion goes a lot deeper than that.

[Dan]

The difference in opinion goes a lot deeper than that.

Not that I'm seeing.

[CountValentine]

I guess we have a different opinion of a straight answer. 

[aygart]

The difference in opinion goes a lot deeper than that.

I think you are mistaken. I think that the difference between Dan's analogy and yours pretty much sums it up. You were asking based on a hypothetical while everyone here answered based on the reality we are in.

You have one dose of medicine. You can save your parent or you can give it to a stranger in need. Either will die without it.
Who gets it?

Your parent.
You have food that will last you for a month. Your neighbors are starving. Do you share some of it with them?

[CountValentine]

Not that I'm seeing.

We agree on that. We can continue this after I give a couple of my N95 masks to my neighbor who does not have any. 

[Lurker]

We agree on that. We can continue this after I give a couple of my N95 masks to my neighbor who does not have any. 

How many do you have? How long will they last you?

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My friend Jerry sent me this;

This was me for 31 years... I actually had tears in my eyes reading this. Should I feel guilty for not being there? Tough question.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/05/youre-basically-right-next-nuclear-reactor/?arc404=true

He's 70, retired as top anesthesiologist In one of the countries the most respected hospitals.

He's an expert on malignent hypothermia.

he also has a heart condition and underlying asthma. Would he work ? He says with proper guaranteed ppe he might.

They are offering nurses 10k a week. Such outrageous sums because there's no gear.

Regardless of who started this I find that the deplorable that we, the greatest nation on earth are reliant on China.

Yet somehow it was racist to say America should bring the jobs home.

[Dan]

I think you are mistaken. I think that the difference between Dan's analogy and yours pretty much sums it up. You were asking based on a hypothetical while everyone here answered based on the reality we are in.

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