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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #340 on: November 05, 2020, 12:35:39 PM »
It would not matter where you live or where you vote.
It definitely would matter, a vote in WI is not the same as a vote in CA.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #341 on: November 05, 2020, 12:36:42 PM »
How about a national voter roll?
Privacy issues but may be worth it. Until now the GOP opposed vote legislation bc they assumed low turnout is good for them, this election may change that perception.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #342 on: November 05, 2020, 12:38:39 PM »
It definitely would matter, a vote in WI is not the same as a vote in CA.
National voter roll has your address. It won't matter!!!
Vote anywhere in the country. National computer system. We need to get out of the 1900's.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #343 on: November 05, 2020, 12:39:38 PM »
Privacy issues but may be worth it.
True but what about SS cards, is that a privacy issue?
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #344 on: November 05, 2020, 12:46:01 PM »
True but what about SS cards, is that a privacy issue?
I'm not well educated on the topic but there are a few lunatics who don't get SSN.

The other argument is the more centralized systems are, the easier they are for a foreign power to manipulate.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #345 on: November 05, 2020, 12:51:17 PM »
National voter roll has your address. It won't matter!!!
Vote anywhere in the country. National computer system. We need to get out of the 1900's.
Who will tell the system when someone moves from WI to CA?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #346 on: November 05, 2020, 12:51:24 PM »
I think with voter ID it'd be much simpler to prevent fraud. And when you get a new drivers license or register in a new state it should prompt a de-registration in the previous state.
If the states can share driving violations across states there's no reason they can't share voter registration data as well.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #347 on: November 05, 2020, 12:59:13 PM »

If the states can share driving violations
I think very few do except for a DUI database and even that doesn't include all states.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #348 on: November 05, 2020, 01:01:58 PM »
I think very few do except for a DUI database and even that doesn't include all states.
Most states share driving violations. That's how you can get points for out of state moving violations.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #349 on: November 05, 2020, 01:02:38 PM »
I think very few do except for a DUI database and even that doesn't include all states.

Everyone participates except 6 states.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver_License_Compact
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #350 on: November 05, 2020, 01:28:07 PM »
Who will tell the system when someone moves from WI to CA?
The same way it is done now except all states would be tied together. This isn't rocket science. H*ll USPS does it.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #351 on: November 05, 2020, 01:29:24 PM »
H*ll USPS does it.

Yes, a model of efficiency for our times.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #352 on: November 05, 2020, 01:37:10 PM »
Yes, a model of efficiency for our times.
Is ok to say "clueless"?  :)
Are you familiar with their intranet capabilities?
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #353 on: November 05, 2020, 01:44:35 PM »
Is ok to say "clueless"?  :)
Are you familiar with their intranet capabilities?

I didn't say they were completely incapable of doing things right. I just wouldn't make them the face of efficiency. The DMV sucks, but whatever system they use to communicate between states never forget to put points on my license, regardless of where the ticket was issued. Meanwhile, at my last 3 addresses, I've received more mail for other people than for myself.

ETA: And I know this is a cr@ppy argument. It's mostly tongue in cheek.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #354 on: November 05, 2020, 01:46:56 PM »
Most of these instances are ballots that are issued to two different people, yourself and a previous resident, who either died or possibly moved out of state.
Every single state has some form of verification. That's not to say that you couldn't get a fraudulent ballot through in some circumstances, but to think that just because someone got a ballot for another person that they can actually get a vote counted for them.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #355 on: November 05, 2020, 01:47:29 PM »
I didn't say they were completely incapable of doing things right. I just wouldn't make them the face of efficiency. The DMV sucks, but whatever system they use to communicate between states never forget to put points on my license, regardless of where the ticket was issued. Meanwhile, at my last 3 addresses, I've received more mail for other people than for myself.

ETA: And I know this is a cr@ppy argument. It's mostly tongue in cheek.
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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #356 on: November 05, 2020, 01:52:44 PM »
The other argument is the more centralized systems are, the easier they are for a foreign power to manipulate.

Also gives more power to the sitting president in an election that may replace him (which is another reason why mail-in voting should be as limited as possible).

There are simpler ways to accomplish that same thing. They can cleaning up the voter rolls by comparing it to death records, and require inactive voters (anyone who hasn't voted in a while) to confirm their registration.

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Re: The Post-Trump World
« Reply #359 on: November 05, 2020, 06:50:25 PM »
Is there anything Trump can do to Twitter/FB by EO that a court won’t immediately overturn?
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