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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #160 on: August 16, 2023, 07:01:33 PM »
@ExGingi Sure!

How would it work?

Perhaps start with a tweet summing it all up?

I was tweeting quite a bit last night.

Summarizing takes time. I think we'll start with translating the full post, and then work on summary tweets from there.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #161 on: August 16, 2023, 07:07:36 PM »
Tweeting doesn't help enough, it really needs to be picked up by the news, which has already happened. Did anyone know how Israeli news is reporting it? Have they tracked down other passengers? Or is it split down party line?

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #162 on: August 16, 2023, 07:13:42 PM »
I was tweeting quite a bit last night.

Summarizing takes time. I think we'll start with translating the full post, and then work on summary tweets from there.
Happy to help with translating too.

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #163 on: August 16, 2023, 07:15:55 PM »
Internalized misogyny that she didn't sense a fellow woman was being discriminated against.
A newlywed with her husband wouldn't sense anything
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #164 on: August 16, 2023, 08:06:00 PM »
Why not reach out the BS to talk about this.
BS as in Ben Shapiro...
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #165 on: August 16, 2023, 08:14:34 PM »
Why not reach out the BS to talk about this.
BS as in Ben Shapiro...
He hasn't picked up pro "haredi" stories in the past... Tried with Lufthansa. But if anyone knows him by all means...
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #166 on: August 16, 2023, 08:21:16 PM »
He hasn't picked up pro "haredi" stories in the past... Tried with Lufthansa. But if anyone knows him by all means...

Perhaps it can be pitched to him as a "biased liberal media" story.

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #167 on: August 16, 2023, 08:27:25 PM »
Why not reach out the BS to talk about this.
BS as in Ben Shapiro...
The real damage that’s being done is on Israeli MSM. BS wouldn’t help contrast that.

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #168 on: August 16, 2023, 08:34:53 PM »
Why not reach out the BS to talk about this.
BS as in Ben Shapiro...

For what purpose? He's an American political pundit. People who this story is relevant to heard it without him, him speaking about it will only inform his listeners of this sad area of Israeli politics which helps no one.

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #169 on: August 16, 2023, 09:16:44 PM »
The real damage that’s being done is on Israeli MSM. BS wouldn’t help contrast that.
This isn't the cause of damage, it's the effect of how horribly corrosive and divided Israeli society is today.

Neria is merely selling what they want to hear for confirmation bias. "The Prophet exists to sell itself, you silly girl."


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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #172 on: August 16, 2023, 09:41:19 PM »
Why do they stress attractive?
He’s trying to get to a case where the guy has a legitimate halachik issue

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #173 on: August 16, 2023, 09:45:20 PM »
He’s trying to get to a case where the guy has a legitimate halachik issue
If they're not attractive there are no issues, just if they're attractive?
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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #174 on: August 16, 2023, 09:47:27 PM »
If they're not attractive there are no issues, just if they're attractive?
He’s just trying to go to an extreme in order to solicit a response of what to do in a scenario where a guy knows he’ll have hirhurim issues.

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #175 on: August 16, 2023, 11:01:48 PM »
He’s just trying to go to an extreme in order to solicit a response of what to do in a scenario where a guy knows he’ll have hirhurim issues.
+1
Even if it’s halachicly permitted to sit next to a woman (as R’ Moshe Zt”l writes), if someone has hirhurim it can be an issur d’oraisa. Not saying that it’s the woman’s problem, it’s the man who needs to deal with it.
On this note, I wonder if it would be taken differently if the men would offer other women to take their seat (obviously if it’s equal or better quality) rather than ask the woman next to them to move away?

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #176 on: August 16, 2023, 11:13:44 PM »
Hi Hannah,

I appreciate your coverage at Insider and very much enjoy your writing.

I wanted to bring your attention to an alternative viewpoint on a story you recently covered. Please see the following link

https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/united/dansdeals-interview-haredi-accused-discrimination-united-israeli-journalist-invented-false-narrative

where the journalist is alleged to have fabricated the story as yet another in a recent series of anti-Hareidi provocations currently underway in Israel. I am sure you are aware of the ongoing political turmoil between the Hareidim and many members of the secular public, including the very station at which Neria is employed, relating to the proposed Supreme Court reforms.

Due to the prestige Insider is accorded, it would be a vital disservice to the public if they were left with only one side of an apparently disputed story which can do real damage to an already often targeted minority in Israel, the US, and across the world. I am certain you did not intend to foment hatred and were merely reporting what you believed to be accurate at the time. A correction to the record would be most welcome.

Thank you for your time, and I look forward to reading more of your excellent journalism.

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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #177 on: August 16, 2023, 11:52:21 PM »
Hi Hannah,

I appreciate your coverage at Insider and very much enjoy your writing.


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Re: United Crew Shames Woman Who Won’t Move Seats Due To Demand From Men
« Reply #179 on: August 17, 2023, 01:18:55 AM »
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