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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3860 on: November 06, 2023, 11:56:04 PM »
Rav Dovid Schustal personally confirmed with Rav Elya Ber Wachtfogel that the rumor is false and he never changed his endorsement of Avi Schnall. Pretty sharp words against Roberts, Hefkervelt Et al. as well.


Maddening. It's such a sick irony to go against everything the Torah stands for.........in the name of the Torah. Lehavdil - it's like the same-gender rights groups that are pro-Palestinian.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3861 on: November 07, 2023, 12:33:18 AM »
Maddening. It's such a sick irony to go against everything the Torah stands for.........in the name of the Torah. Lehavdil - it's like the same-gender rights groups that are pro-Palestinian.
Is this your own daas Torah or based on daas Torah? Remind me, what’s your title again?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3862 on: November 07, 2023, 12:35:05 AM »
Remind me, what’s your title again?
This is the Lakewood thread, everyone's a Rabbi.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3863 on: November 07, 2023, 12:40:17 AM »
This is the Lakewood thread, everyone's a Rabbi.
That’s only for the Lakewood of old, not for the future of Lakewood…
P.s. you should rename yourself as imarabbi2.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3864 on: November 07, 2023, 07:19:31 AM »
Is this your own daas Torah or based on daas Torah?

Is what my own daas torah? my analogy? Please clarify and please state your true position on what both R Yitzchok Sorotzkin shlita and R Dovid Shustal shlita have stated in the above thread. Transparency can be super enlightening.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3865 on: November 07, 2023, 09:18:34 AM »
Maddening. It's such a sick irony to go against everything the Torah stands for.........in the name of the Torah. Lehavdil - it's like the same-gender rights groups that are pro-Palestinian.

What’s the example used when talking about Emunas Chachamim?
I’ll help you out
Even if they say right is left and left is right....

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3866 on: November 07, 2023, 09:23:03 AM »
I have absolutely no idea if the people I voted for are good choices.
I did vote for avi schnall.

What's a surrogate?

They also got fancy new machines

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3867 on: November 07, 2023, 10:01:19 AM »
What’s the example used when talking about Emunas Chachamim?
I’ll help you out
Even if they say right is left and left is right....
I think that’s talking about a Sanhedrin.

Also see yerushlmy horiyos
יכול על ימין שהוא שמאל ועל שמאל שהוא ימין ת״ל כו׳

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3868 on: November 07, 2023, 12:07:23 PM »
https://www.faanews.com/2023/11/audio-rav-elyah-brudny-calls-lakewood.html

I don't know why Rav Elya Brudny gave this person the time of day. This was deeply disturbing to listen to.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3869 on: November 07, 2023, 12:38:11 PM »
https://www.faanews.com/2023/11/audio-rav-elyah-brudny-calls-lakewood.html

I don't know why Rav Elya Brudny gave this person the time of day. This was deeply disturbing to listen to.

Basically those who are opposing are קורח ועדתו and will have the same punishment. Ouch.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2023, 03:37:01 PM by jye »

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3870 on: November 07, 2023, 02:53:22 PM »
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any opposition to Rabbi Schnall is like Korach and his group

Can anyone give a short background to all of this? Is Rabbi Schnall running for מרן or just for an assembly seat?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3871 on: November 07, 2023, 03:37:48 PM »
Can anyone give a short background to all of this? Is Rabbi Schnall running for מרן or just for an assembly seat?
Undermining the gedolei hatorah not Schnall

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3872 on: November 07, 2023, 03:55:23 PM »
I have absolutely no idea if the people I voted for are good choices.
I did vote for avi schnall.

What's a surrogate?

They also got fancy new machines
Um... You voted for Schnall, but you also voted for his opponent, Ned Thomson. So basically that negates your vote for Schnall...

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3873 on: November 07, 2023, 04:00:38 PM »
Um... You voted for Schnall, but you also voted for his opponent, Ned Thomson. So basically that negates your vote for Schnall...
While that's not technically true, it is practically true. Both Kean and Thomson are his opponents, but since Kean is guaranteed to get the most votes Schnall and Thomson are realistically fighting for the other seat.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3874 on: November 07, 2023, 04:10:09 PM »
whats the agenda of the anti-schnall campaign, what are they gaining? it sounds like there's no motivation other than extreme hate, you can feel it in all the annoying phone calls, just extreme hate and bashing.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3875 on: November 07, 2023, 04:25:57 PM »
whats the agenda of the anti-schnall campaign, what are they gaining? it sounds like there's no motivation other than extreme hate, you can feel it in all the annoying phone calls, just extreme hate and bashing.

Rich Roberts specifically is a major R donor and supporter in all ways.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3876 on: November 07, 2023, 05:15:04 PM »
Um... You voted for Schnall, but you also voted for his opponent, Ned Thomson. So basically that negates your vote for Schnall...
Lol leave it up to me to mess things up
IDK what I was thinking

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3877 on: November 07, 2023, 06:29:51 PM »
whats the agenda of the anti-schnall campaign, what are they gaining? it sounds like there's no motivation other than extreme hate, you can feel it in all the annoying phone calls, just extreme hate and bashing.
I thought for many it is because they are die hard republicans and can’t vote for Democrats.
Basically Patriotism over Religion.
 Nebach

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3878 on: November 07, 2023, 06:39:27 PM »
I thought for many it is because they are die hard republicans and can’t vote for Democrats.
Basically Patriotism over Religion.
 Nebach

If you listen to them - it sounds more like a religous cheshbon. As i said, sick irony.

Many of us grew up not understanding :

1. How there could have been a holocaust committed by an entire continent?

2. How could have there been a "Korach Va'dasoh".

In just the last few weeks, we have all had an unfortunate education that broadened our understanding.
 

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #3879 on: November 07, 2023, 07:22:51 PM »
For those who want up-to-date election results, here are the websites for Ocean and for Monmouth Counties.

Remember, Schnall will be winning in Ocean and losing in Monmouth - you need to add up the numbers to get the real result.

Ocean: https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NJ/Ocean/119025/web.317647/#/summary
Monmouth: https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NJ/Monmouth/119047/web.317647/#/summary

The results should start coming in after 8:00. They usually dump the early voting numbers in one shot, and then each district as the district reports. This could take a while, because they have to let anyone who is there at 8:00 to finish voting. In a heavy turnout year, it could take some time for the line to finish.

If the turnout in Lakewood is much better than Monmouth, expect Schnall to appear to be losing for the first while, but it will even out as the Lakewood districts close up.