US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[davidmal]

I still think he would run the USA better than Hillary

Pig yes
Bully yes
Liar no


Hillary
Pig yes
Bully no
Liar yes


Bully vs liar

I'll go for the bully

[cholent]

I still think he would run the USA better than Hillary

Pig yes
Bully yes
Liar no


Hillary
Pig yes
Bully no
Liar yes


Bully vs liar

I'll go for the bully

You are aware that trump is a pathological liar who constantly lies often for no gain at all? So they're both liars

[David Smith]

He's a different kind of liar than Hillary. She knows the truth, and chooses to distort it. He truly believes what he says is accurate. In his fantasy world, it's true. His lies are often a lot more blatant and outrageous than Clinton, but he doesn't get in as much trouble for them because he truly believes them. To him, the definition of a good person is someone who likes him, and the definition of a fact is something that is good for him. He's not a liar, he's deranged.

[davidmal]

Didn't say I'm voting...
Just think he could fix more than she can

One thing you know he will do is stop refugee immigrants

Maybe even clean up the oversized governments

[CS1]

Didn't say I'm voting...
Just think he could fix more than she can

One thing you know he will do is stop refugee immigrants

Maybe even clean up the oversized governments

+1

Plus, what he did wrong was done as a private citizen. (Tape is from eleven yrs ago.) He doesn't do those things now.

What she did wrong was done recently, and as a paid gov't employee in an official status while on the job. Inexcusable. Dangerous candidate for office.

[David Smith]

Debate is gonna be nasty. Trump isn't even trying to look presidential at this point. He just wants to go on the attack.

[yesitsme]

A liar(politicain) is someone thats אחד בפה ואחד בלב and פיו וליבו אינם שווים, if someone is in a dark room and thinks says it's dark outside while the sun is sihining bright didnt lie and isnt a liar even though he did not say the truth,
שלשה הקדוש ברוך הוא שונאן המדבר א' בפה ואחד בלב

[good sam]

Yes, all 50 year old American males speak about assaulting women due to their social status or wealth.

A vote for Trump is not just a vote against Hillary, it's a tacit approval of him as your representative to the world.

This thread disgusts me more than Trump's comments. That so many frum people are so cavalier about someone so morally repugnant is disheartening, to say the least.

You and the media with that word "assaulting." You probably also think Trump said all Mexicans are rapists and that he attacked a gold star family (both false).

[Emkay]

Yes, all 50 year old American males speak about assaulting women due to their social status or wealth.

90% do.
And that last 10% aren't ever gonna run for president.

[cholent]

You and the media with that word "assaulting." You probably also think Trump said all Mexicans are rapists and that he attacked a gold star family (both false).

Both false? Please explain. With Mexicans I assume you mean that he didn't say ALL are rapists, rather "in many cases". Gold star family, how did he not attack them?

[good sam]

Both false? Please explain. With Mexicans I assume you mean that he didn't say ALL are rapists, rather "in many cases".

He was clearly referring to those that come here illegally, or more specifically, those that "Mexico is sending."

Gold star family, how did he not attack them?

Source that he did? The only thing I'm aware of is that flippant comment about the Muslim woman not speaking. Hardly an attack.

[oiseli48]

I assume most people here who support trump would never pick him from all of the GOP candidates (I wouldn't). Now that he's all we got, or an even more immoral woman who just happens to have a media that covers up for her. Yes she enabled Bill's actions, harassed and threatened women so they wouldn't come out with their stories, is rumored to be a שוכבת עם נקבה herself, among many others.

[good sam]

Is rumored to be a שוכבת עם נקבה herself

Not that it's disqualifying, but did you see what Gennifer F said that Bill told her about Hillary? (warning: not fit for DDF)

[oiseli48]

Not that it's disqualifying, but did you see what Gennifer F said that Bill told her about Hillary? (warning: not fit for DDF)

Yeah

I also find it so liberalish to perpetuate this claim that "he didn't pay taxes for 18 years". That's based on the presumption he didn't make more in 18 years than what he lost in the 90's. Meaning, over 20 years, he didn't make any money. Why, please tell, should one be paying taxes if they haven't made any money?!??

[pixi]

I'd rather a competent president with a personal life that I find morally questionable (within the law, of course) than a president with marital views that align with mine but is woefully incapable accomplishing anything positive in his capacity as president. Bill Clinton's personal affairs didn't seem to interfere with his presidential duties too severely.

Well said

[pixi]

You want such a man serving as your President?
He should drop out and spare himself the landslide awaiting him.

Well,  Hillary isn't much better of not  worse,  I never thought that trump is such a big tzadik (although I didn't think that such a tape will leak).  What about bills affairs?  Did it do something to his presidency? He just took the heat and moved on .

[pixi]

Bill will be the discussion of the debate.... pity him

[Moshe123]

The latest: 30% of the GOP Senate caucus is not supporting Trump (16 of 54); that includes 19% of men and 83% of women.

[Sport]

The latest: 30% of the GOP Senate caucus is not supporting Trump (16 of 54); that includes 19% of men and 83% of women.

What percentage of those are up for reelection ?

[avadah]

As bad as hillary  is, she's still somewhat of a normal person. Sure she puts her own interests  before anything else, a liar and the whole laundry list of issues but she is more likely  to run a government  in the framework it should be than trump. He is too impulsive  and reckless to be president . You can't alienate your allies. There's a concept  of diplomacy  that as much as it's  fake you can't ignore the way the world works. It's a game that needs to be played. You can't be so easily  manipulated . Hillary  threw him off his game right away in the first  debate be saying he's not a self made billionaire  and that pushed the right buttons  of his ego to make him lose  focus. Frankly he lacks the self control it takes to be president and is just too immature.

Here's an article  from politico on how easily  played he was by Howard Stern. If you get played by Howard  Stern  you need some help. (Disclaimer: it's about trump on the Howard Stern show. You can imagine some stuff it contains There's  your basket of deplorables.)
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/howard-stern-donald-trump-2016-214322

That's besides the fact  he ran on the premise of being a successful  business man who never loses which clearly not true and you see has a really warped mind after reading some of his disgusting  comments on ivanka. Even if it's just extreme TaiVos nashim the extent of it shows a corrupt mind that should not be allowed to carry the responsibility  the comes along with being POTUS.

And rememberwhen people had issues with Obama not carrying on bush's custom of always wearing  a jacket in the Oval office because  that was inappropriate?