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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
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AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

Author Topic: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread  (Read 727160 times)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2820 on: August 22, 2022, 12:57:02 AM »
OMG.
Send a picture of this to UA and ask that they find a new caterer ex-EU.

Of course I emailed both 1K and UCS emails, and haven't gotten any feedback yet. Also for the umpteenth time, asked why kosher food isn't available in EWR Polaris or UC. And lastly, I was pretty livid over the fact that a couple of weeks ago, when UA 90 was initially delayed and then cancelled, why they distributed Doritos (seriously?) without any hechsher , at a gate that was 90% visibly kosher travelers. To which I attached a picture also. Zero response.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2822 on: August 24, 2022, 04:08:13 PM »
Anyone lately flew LH EWR-MUC and has KSML photos or info?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2823 on: August 30, 2022, 08:05:05 PM »




AA ZRH-PHL.

Pretty decent, not frozen solid this time, though not defrosted enough. Only ate the Entree (only remembered to take a pic after it was halfways eaten) 6.5-7/10. From Schalom Catering.

Snack at the end of the flight was from Stogel. Tuna sandwich in a sesame roll. Seemed ok, didn't take a pic or taste.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2824 on: August 30, 2022, 08:10:55 PM »
Probably the kitchen's fault for not defrosting. Definitely write to AA.
@chff Anything that Zetko can do to provide feedback on this?
Gave 5,000 miles per person after pushing back a few times. Would not give anything more.

The people is ZRH did figure out how to override the system that was charging me for luggage. Agents in PHL were not interested in researching, although AA should get their act together.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2825 on: September 08, 2022, 10:51:46 AM »
Anyone lately flew LH EWR-MUC and has KSML photos or info?


This report may be surprising some viewers!

We booked via united.com EWR-MUC round trip. Aug 29 - Sept 7
We first didn't pay attention that EWR-MUC leg is going to be with Lufthansa not united, and were a bit upset because of mask mandate still in effect by Lufthansa,
in addition, I learned that even I select kosher meal online with United it wont sync automatically with Lufthansa, So 48 hours before scheduled flight we called up Lufthansa and they manually added the kosher meal.

To our surprise the food was phenomenal see photos attached, frozen rewarmed regal catering, the best meals I have ever had on a plan, the beef was delicious!
The separate small container with beans and vegetables were a little bit Frozen but anyways don't like beans...😉

However, on the way back MUC > EWR we got a surprise,
"No Kosher Food"...what?? We ask our flight attendant politely, what's going on, he said I don't see any kosher food order on this flight, did you book this through Lufthansa, he asked? We said quite the opposite we booked it through United, and we were told by many people that Lufthansa sometimes does not sync with your special meal system, however no one told us that your system doesn't sync with your own special meal system
He kind of brushed us off, saying that yes it says kosher meal but a accommodation its blank...(not sure what that means) assuming we booked through Lufthansa, so later I logged into my united app via free limited WiFi and showed him my booking and it clearly says kosher meal, and I ask him can you please help me understand what went wrong here?

He said you are right I have no idea, and slowly moved away like nothing happened, I went to a different flight attendant from premium economy section and she got more curious what happened she had a back and forth discussion with another two flight attendants and came back to me by apologizing and saying we have no idea what happened we feel really sorry for you, unfortunately at this time I cannot bring you kosher food, obviously, however I can offer you $100 certificate for each of you good for 2 years or some 5000 points (lol) she said I believe you would like more the $100 x2 pax = $200.

Mortal lesson, don't ever really on airlines for kosher meal..

Mask mandate by Lufthansa note:
It ended up not being that bad, as they only really enforce the mask upon entering the plane and the first few minutes, then half of the plane we're not wearing the mask, for wearing it halfway down, I only saw one time during the whole flight the flight attend politely asking someone to please put the mask back on


Photos of Kosher meal by Lufthansa EWR > MUC booked through United called Lufthansa after booking 48 hours before the flight to request to manually add kosher meal.














Returned flight MUC > EWR booked with United and flew with United...



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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2826 on: September 08, 2022, 02:03:38 PM »
VIE- BKK OS J, didn't even open the Stogel meal carton. On return with LH BKK-MUC- TLV also J, Amsterdam Beis Din meal, don't know who the caterers are, but it must be someone's leftover cholent that they rinsed and put out to dry. Haven't been having a good track record with KSML lately.


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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2827 on: October 14, 2022, 04:54:46 AM »
Airline: LO
Class: Business
Route:JFK-WAW
Flight Date: Sept. 21 2022
Meals in pics:Dinner and breakfast




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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2828 on: October 14, 2022, 07:26:26 AM »
Airline: LO
Class: Business
Route:JFK-WAW
Flight Date: Sept. 21 2022
Meals in pics:Dinner and breakfast



Dinner is getting very small portions

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2829 on: October 21, 2022, 02:34:37 PM »
Austrian Airlines Business class Zetko meals ex-JFK
Dinner chicken was decent. Chummus exploded...it was rancid. Fruits had mold. Lox with every meal is just evergreen. Stogel garbage on the connection.











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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2830 on: October 21, 2022, 02:42:33 PM »
SN Business ex-BUD  Stogel lox catfood for breakfast.

UA Business Class meal ex-BRU was predictably Stogel. 10am departure got us chicken nuggets for breakfast with a side of lox once again. "Cold snack" before landing...lox once again with inedible fruit cup and dry shelf stable cake.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2831 on: October 21, 2022, 02:44:38 PM »
UA Business Class meal ex-BRU was predictably Stogel. 10am departure got us chicken nuggets for breakfast with a side of lox once again. "Cold snack" before landing...lox once again with inedible fruit cup and dry shelf stable cake.
UA wants to hear feedback on their KSMLs. They have told me that time and time again.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2832 on: October 21, 2022, 02:45:21 PM »
UA wants to hear feedback on their KSMLs. They have told me that time and time again.
I sent it to them while onboard via the app.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2833 on: October 23, 2022, 02:36:18 AM »
Airline AA
Class First Class
Plane a321Transcon
Route BOS-LAX
Meal DINNER
Flight Date
9/29/22

Terrible meal.

It also doesn't help when everyone else in the cabin is being served a 7 course feast with hot rolls :-)
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2834 on: October 23, 2022, 02:40:39 AM »
Airline AA
Class First Class
Plane a321Transcon
Route BOS-LAX
Meal DINNER
Flight Date
9/29/22

Terrible meal.

It also doesn't help when everyone else in the cabin is being served a 7 course feast with hot rolls :-)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2835 on: October 23, 2022, 09:31:55 AM »
Airline AA
Class First Class
Plane a321Transcon
Route BOS-LAX
Meal DINNER
Flight Date
9/29/22

Terrible meal.

It also doesn't help when everyone else in the cabin is being served a 7 course feast with hot rolls :-)
What in the world is that supposed to be?
Sure hope you send feedback to AA.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2836 on: October 24, 2022, 01:22:10 AM »
Airline TK
Class Business
Plane: 787/777
Route ORD-IST/IST-TLV
Meal None/Breakfast
Flight Date 10/23-24

ORD-IST: Didn’t load approx 40 pax KSMLs. Crew was super apologetic and every few minutes brought around fruit, nuts and chocolate (OU-D) to all kosher passengers. As always, COME PREPARED! Ubered Emma’s Bagels to ORD during my connection.

1hr15min layover turned into 30 minutes with a sprint of all passengers from Terminal B to D, 3/4 mile tracked on Apple Watch. Boarded as they were closing the door.

IST-TLV: La Casa (OK) meal. Cheese, veggies, olives, fruit, rolls and hot potato blintzes & veggie omelette. Very good!

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2837 on: October 24, 2022, 10:00:05 AM »
What in the world is that supposed to be?
Sure hope you send feedback to AA.
i think its kreplach with corn. and gefilte fish.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2838 on: October 24, 2022, 10:35:27 AM »
i think its kreplach with corn. and gefilte fish.
Nah. Mashed potatoes with some sort of Turkey capon or similar and corn.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #2839 on: October 24, 2022, 11:40:11 AM »
I can't figure out why any company would ever put mashed potatoes into a frozen KSML or any other of the frozen or shelf stable meals. They invariably end up being almost like a soup and ruining the entire meal.
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