Kyle Rittenhouse - guilty or not guilty?

[YitzyS]

What does "sure" mean.

I don't know the precise legal standard

[CountValentine]

Then we are both in the dark.

[zh cohen]

Ok one last time. 
No witnesses claimed the barrel was actually grabbed except Kyle.
Good? 

And no witnesses (without exception) said that the barrel was not grabbed.

We have a presumption of innocence, which means that it is up to the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did not act in self defense.

[CountValentine]

For those that think this is politics, one of the most political networks (CNN) is saying it is going very well for the defense.
Doesn't sound like the correct political stance for them unless it is not about politics.

[CountValentine]

And no witnesses (without exception) said that the barrel was not grabbed.

LOL
No witness said that Kyle didn't stab any of them in the back.

[as2]

For those that think this is politics, one of the most political networks (CNN) is saying it is going very well for the defense.
Doesn't sound like the correct political stance for them unless it is not about politics.

ALOL, they just are trying to cover their tracks in case he's found innocent. Remember the last time they defamed someone without fact?

LOL

I'm not sure where you are going with this, but your logic isn't flowing. A man was shot after the shooter alleged his gun barrel was grabbed. We have multiple witnesses who seem to imply this was entirely possible. We have no witnesses saying otherwise. Am I missing something? 

[as2]

Defense moves to file for mistrial.

[zh cohen]

LOL
No witness said that Kyle didn't stab any of them in the back.

If you ignore the presumption of innocence, this might have been a relevant point...

[CountValentine]

I'm not sure where you are going with this, but your logic isn't flowing. A man was shot after the shooter alleged his gun barrel was grabbed. We have multiple witnesses who seem to imply this was entirely possible. We have no witnesses saying otherwise. Am I missing something?

Witnesses were asked what they saw. Not one said the barrel was grabbed. The reason they said that is because they did not see the barrel being grabbed. Is it possible it happened and they didn't see it, yes.

I expect the prosecution to go into this but we will see.

[Yo ssi]

For those that think this is politics, one of the most political networks (CNN) is saying it is going very well for the defense.
Doesn't sound like the correct political stance for them unless it is not about politics.

Link?

[zh cohen]

I don't know the precise legal standard, but a DA cannot prosecute someone because he thinks they MIGHT be guilty.

Here's what came up on Google from the ABA-
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/criminal_justice/standards/ProsecutionFunctionFourthEdition/#:~:text=(a)%20A%20prosecutor%20should%20seek,in%20the%20interests%20of%20justice.

(a) A prosecutor should seek or file criminal charges only if the prosecutor reasonably believes that the charges are supported by probable cause, that admissible evidence will be sufficient to support conviction beyond a reasonable doubt, and that the decision to charge is in the interests of justice.

[CountValentine]

If you ignore the presumption of innocence,

That has nothing to do with who you believe.

[avromie7]

Defense moves to file for mistrial.

With prejudice.

[Yehuda57]

Wow, "I don't believe you"

[CountValentine]

With prejudice.

Don't think they will get it at this point but could change.

[CountValentine]

Wow, "I don't believe you"

That was pretty bold and uncalled for.

[avromie7]

That was pretty bold and uncalled for.

Why?

[CountValentine]

Why?

No need to call him a liar.

[avromie7]

No need to call him a liar.

I didn't watch the entire case, but to put it mildly, I don't think the judge is happy with the prosecutors antics. The impression I get is the prosecutor like a child who says you didn't tell me I can't use this pen to color the wall, you only told me not to use the other one.

[CountValentine]

I didn't watch the entire case, but to put it mildly, I don't think the judge is happy with the prosecutors antics. The impression I get is the prosecutor like a child who says you didn't tell me I can't use this pen to color the wall, you only told me not to use the other one.

That is one view and the other view is the judge is a defense judge.