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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 1139177 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1960 on: January 12, 2017, 10:31:49 PM »
if its that
If it is a machlokes? My opinion is that it is. Lmaase I would consider it nbn derech bishul.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1961 on: January 12, 2017, 10:33:11 PM »
if i can eat it with milchig after

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1962 on: January 12, 2017, 10:35:45 PM »
if i can eat it with milchig after
Machlokes mechaber RaMA
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1963 on: January 12, 2017, 10:37:29 PM »
Machlokes mechaber RaMA
gotcha, rama=cant?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1964 on: January 12, 2017, 10:37:53 PM »
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1965 on: January 12, 2017, 10:42:26 PM »
The question then becomes the cooker itself. That is on my list of things to research.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1966 on: January 12, 2017, 11:04:20 PM »
The question then becomes the cooker itself. That is on my list of things to research.
which question?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1967 on: January 12, 2017, 11:06:01 PM »
Correct
chavas da'as. N"t bar n"t besha'as bishul is a ta'am rishon.
In my line of work, the shaila is if you can use a steam kettle for milchig and the fleishig and only kasher the kettle and not drain the jacket condensate. Like the chavas da'as the water is real fleishig

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1968 on: January 12, 2017, 11:09:14 PM »
chavas da'as. N"t bar n"t besha'as bishul is a ta'am rishon.
In my line of work, the shaila is if you can use a steam kettle for milchig and the fleishig and only kasher the kettle and not drain the jacket condensate. Like the chavas da'as the water is real fleishig
so lfi him its real fleishig?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1969 on: January 12, 2017, 11:11:12 PM »
chavas da'as. N"t bar n"t besha'as bishul is a ta'am rishon.
In my line of work, the shaila is if you can use a steam kettle for milchig and the fleishig and only kasher the kettle and not drain the jacket condensate. Like the chavas da'as the water is real fleishig
Correct. That was the other opinion in the machlokes.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1970 on: January 12, 2017, 11:11:36 PM »
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1971 on: January 12, 2017, 11:31:06 PM »
The question then becomes the cooker itself. That is on my list of things to research.

R' Forchheimer told me I can use it for both fish and meat, but not for both meat and dairy
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1972 on: January 12, 2017, 11:32:13 PM »
A few shaila:
1. A kli of issura bala that rov tashmisho is also yedei bishul and miyut tashmisho is also yedei tigun/machvas. Can you be metzaref the meikilim (rosh) of machvas with the meikilim of rov tashmisho and only require hagalah ? Similar to what we find by Pesach that were metzaref the kula of machvas and the kula of chametz heteira bala.
2. The Ba"ch says that bedieved if you only had linas leila(Rashi) and then kasher, it works. But if you had linas leila and then cooked the food without kashering, the food is assur. (The Bach learns from a diyuk in יו"ד קכ"א. Where the turbo brings down both shitos as opposed to ק"ג where he only brings 24 hrs.) Are we soimech on this lehalacha and what's pshat in the bach?

3. Does the heter of chamimus hatanur that we find in יו"ד קי"ב סעיף י, does it also apply to bishul akum ?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1973 on: January 12, 2017, 11:38:50 PM »
A few shaila:
1. A kli of issura bala that rov tashmisho is also yedei bishul and miyut tashmisho is also yedei tigun/machvas. Can you be metzaref the meikilim (rosh) of machvas with the meikilim of rov tashmisho and only require hagalah ? Similar to what we find by Pesach that were metzaref the kula of machvas and the kula of chametz heteira bala.
2. The Ba"ch says that bedieved if you only had linas leila(Rashi) and then kasher, it works. But if you had linas leila and then cooked the food without kashering, the food is assur. (The Bach learns from a diyuk in יו"ד קכ"א. Where the turbo brings down both shitos as opposed to ק"ג where he only brings 24 hrs.) Are we soimech on this lehalacha and what's pshat in the bach?

3. Does the heter of chamimus hatanur that we find in יו"ד קי"ב סעיף י, does it also apply to bishul akum ?
1. I hear. Need to think about it at a better time.
2. I think pshat is because the only reason you need eino Ben yomo is because of chanan.
3. Yes it does. The gaon calls it a kal vchomer from kisem
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1974 on: January 12, 2017, 11:47:10 PM »
2. I think pshat is because the only reason you need eino Ben yomo is because of chanan.
but what's the difference if you kashered or not regarding the food. If your being soimech on linas leila to say that what the pot re absorbs is pagum then be soimech on it to say that the food is muttar. And if your not soimech on it to say the food is muttar then also say that what the kli reabsorbs is issur

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1975 on: January 12, 2017, 11:49:06 PM »
but what's the difference if you kashered or not regarding the food. If your being soimech on linas leila to say that what the pot re absorbs is pagum then be soimech on it to say that the food is muttar. And if your not soimech on it to say the food is muttar then also say that what the kli reabsorbs is issur
You are being mitztaref the shitos that no chanan by shaar issurim
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1977 on: January 14, 2017, 07:54:36 PM »
You are being mitztaref the shitos that no chanan by shaar issurim
but then the first time you're mavashel lach should be like the hagolo of the Bach. It doesn't seem to be the case

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1978 on: January 14, 2017, 08:16:53 PM »
but then the first time you're mavashel lach should be like the hagolo of the Bach. It doesn't seem to be the case
are you referring to TaZ 93.2?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #1979 on: January 14, 2017, 08:59:21 PM »
Which poskim say covering the knobs with no blech works?