i think this conversation has gone WAAAYYYY off topic.
We had a fellow who said that he would like to send his children to Yeshiva
but could not afford $20,000x3 children.
Somebody (maybe it waas AsherO) said that the standard Chareidi School does not charge 20,000 per child.
I +1ed that and explained that the Torah-True schools don't charge so much. This was based on the fact that he was looking to grow in his Yiddishkeit while i believe that most of the 20,000 are ok if the students stay on a lower level of Yiddishkeit. Someone then suggested that they send to a modern orthodox place. Which i disagreed with for obvious reasons.
Then the whole conversation blew up. Obviously if you say something like that you hate them, etc. etc.
But lets go back to the conversation.
Do the Liberal Modern Orthodox schools think that they are Torah-True? If so, why should i think they are? There are 70 Panim l'Torah, not 70,000.
Is it true that a high percentage go off to ivy league schools and many go off the derech and of those many marry goyim? i think yes, do you disagree?
Why would anyone suggest that a person trying to grow should not go to a Chareidi place and instead go to a modern place? i think there is no reason, do you disagree?
Please stop bashing for the sake of bashing and give some good reasons why i am wrong. I would love to hear. And maybe we can all learn something new.