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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

Author Topic: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread  (Read 748842 times)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3200 on: July 05, 2023, 02:18:54 AM »
Picture of the meal? How was it?
Was actually pretty decent, attached. The sides as well

But a falafel wrap for breakfast... I'll pass

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3201 on: July 05, 2023, 06:57:42 AM »

Unfortunately not yoshon.
some are



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YOSHON: Yoshon status is noted on the ingredient panel. Note that labels may change at any time and so it is important to check the label on every meal you receive. In general, do not assume airline meals worldwide are yoshon, so be sure to always inquire. Flights leaving Eretz Yisrael (with reliably certified meals) are always yoshon.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3202 on: July 05, 2023, 07:42:39 AM »
Sorry no pic. Had same dinner, but for breakfast out of ewr yesterday, had fresko omelette with potatoes. Was very good.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3203 on: July 05, 2023, 08:48:55 AM »
some are




I know but that one isn't which is a shame bec it's one of the best Y meals I've had.


I don't understand why they aren't fully yoshon. Many ppl taking these flights are makpid. It's not like you can go somewhere else once you're in flight...

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3204 on: July 05, 2023, 10:23:45 AM »

I know but that one isn't which is a shame bec it's one of the best Y meals I've had.


I don't understand why they aren't fully yoshon. Many ppl taking these flights are makpid. It's not like you can go somewhere else once you're in flight...
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3205 on: July 05, 2023, 10:43:33 AM »
Not long ago...
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13629.0
as entertaining as that read was (far more than french fries and bugs), has anyone ever had  decent bread/rolls on a plane, mezonos or otherwise?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3206 on: July 05, 2023, 12:08:14 PM »
as entertaining as that read was (far more than french fries and bugs), has anyone ever had  decent bread/rolls on a plane, mezonos or otherwise?
+1 I don't fly a ton but I never remember enjoying the bread.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3207 on: July 05, 2023, 12:26:59 PM »
+1 I don't fly a ton but I never remember enjoying the bread.
that's because you washed and didn't dry your hands and as a an onesh you made the bread all soggy

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3208 on: July 05, 2023, 04:15:21 PM »
Update so far:
I emailed United Corporate, as well as the two airline Kosher caterers in Australia, as well as the two Kosher Agencies in Australia.

United Corporate (auto?)responded that they need time to investigate and hope to have a response within 5-10 business days from an Executive Solutions Manager.

The Kosher caterers clarified that each one respectively is the exclusive Kosher supplier for the two airlines caterers in Australia, NDATA and Gate Gourmet:
  • NDATA clarified to their Kosher caterer that they do not stock UA.
  • Gate Gourmet clarified to their Kosher caterer they do stock UA, and there is no KSML supply issue on their end; they have plenty of stock and ability to supply all UA flights regardless of departing Australian airport, and the problem lies with UA.

As to the Kosher Agencies, one didn’t respond, and the other didn’t seem to regard it as a matter for their attention… (as of this post).

SFO to SYD did not have kosher meals as an online option.  Called United, and agent said that kosher was not available.  However, after expressing my displeasure, agent put in a special request.   Voila.  Happy to report that we received KSMLs....from Regal.  Mushroom ravioli entree, a tuna sandwich snack, and plain omelets before landing.  Hoping MEL to SFO comes thru as well.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3209 on: July 06, 2023, 03:19:35 AM »
has anyone ever had  decent bread/rolls on a plane, mezonos or otherwise?
Hermolis fresh (not the long life frozen wich is also better than Stogetls and WAM) on BA serves a separate foil pan with warmed up rolls/danishes - very good
Also Emirates Kosher now have rolls on flights departing Dubai which were good when I had them in may.
Also fresko/regal sometimes have a good pita but that only seems to be in the evening when it was a meal supplied THAT day

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3210 on: July 06, 2023, 04:18:32 AM »
that's because you washed and didn't dry your hands and as a an onesh you made the bread all soggy
I actually grew up washing on almost any of these things, but after learning the sugyos I often don't. Koach d'hetera... But one of my travel rules is
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"Always know where your towel is,"
and I do dry my hands well on it after I wash (I always do when I eat the roll on a plane).
Either way, since a certain incident I've mentioned elsewhere when I had to give up my meal, I always carry (hamotzi!) sandwiches. So I don't end up washing on the roll - I usually just eat the main and the veggies (if they didn't ruin them).
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3211 on: July 06, 2023, 10:04:23 AM »
AA JFK - SFO J Regal Breakfast. Food was fresh and tasty (aside from the stake croissant)





AA SFO - JFK J Regal Dinner. Food was poor. Seared tuna was spoiled and the meat was rubber





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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3212 on: July 06, 2023, 04:22:56 PM »
Any recent jetblue mint reports?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3213 on: July 07, 2023, 06:59:36 AM »
Would anyone have insight into why United does not allow KSML selection on MEL-SFO.
Any ideas how to get around it?

Would love to know the answer.  We are on MEL to SFO later this month.

Pre-flight, agents will just say that its not an option and there is nothing they can do.
Post-flight messages will earn canned responses.

Any suggestions as how to get meal from MEL to SFO?  - have 4 trips in next 7 weeks - the SFO-MEL had no issue at all.

SFO to SYD did not have kosher meals as an online option.  Called United, and agent said that kosher was not available.  However, after expressing my displeasure, agent put in a special request.   Voila.  Happy to report that we received KSMLs....from Regal.  Mushroom ravioli entree, a tuna sandwich snack, and plain omelets before landing.  Hoping MEL to SFO comes thru as well.

Before my flight, I was able to get through to a UA phone agent who added it with ease.
The KSML was then showing in the reservation when viewed online, but not in the app.
The main thing is that it came through on the flight.
What was strange is that a previous phone agent told me they could not add it, so this may require HUCA (and waiting on hold...)
Either way, it seems like this is an IT issue more than anything else, and something UA can probably easily rectify if they actually cared to.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3214 on: July 08, 2023, 03:17:26 PM »
AA JFK - SFO J Regal Breakfast. Food was fresh and tasty (aside from the stake croissant)





AA SFO - JFK J Regal Dinner. Food was poor. Seared tuna was spoiled and the meat was rubber





They serve fish and meat in the same meal?

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3215 on: July 10, 2023, 07:35:18 PM »
They serve fish and meat in the same meal?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3216 on: July 16, 2023, 05:03:57 PM »
flying r/t economy elal EWR-TLV in September, here are my meal options to TLV.....




here are my meal options to EWR....

 


any recommendations?
thanks.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3217 on: July 17, 2023, 04:13:50 PM »
JetBlue Mint LAX-JFK.















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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3218 on: July 17, 2023, 04:32:04 PM »
AA DFW-CLE F KSML.
Confirmed, but nothing loaded.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #3219 on: July 17, 2023, 05:13:21 PM »
Elal claims to offer a vegan mehadrin, GVML, but it is not one of the choices as shown a few posts above

Any way to get that (during 9 days)?

https://www.elal.com/en/PassengersInfo/OnBoard/Pages/Archive/Food-Beverages.aspx