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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5260 on: December 27, 2023, 12:21:54 AM »
Buyformeretail and  buyinggroup.com are non Jewish
Jewish BG are
USA buying group Mosher cohen
Closeoutnj  Yaakov jacobs
Deal and runner is chesky landau
Pointsmaker don't know who owner is
Uearnpoints I think is Jewish owned
Don't know about the rest
maxoutdeals is Jewish

BG manager Mark Mann (on DDF too) is Jewish
MYS is Jewish

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5261 on: December 27, 2023, 12:23:34 AM »
I have no idea but anybody who thinks that they should do something because somebody's jewish is the entire purpose of the thread
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5262 on: December 27, 2023, 10:06:14 AM »
which are?
I've heard buying group is the best hands down. Any dp's?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5263 on: December 27, 2023, 06:49:24 PM »
I've heard buying group is the best hands down. Any dp's?
They're the only ones with a lost and empty package payment guarantee.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5264 on: December 27, 2023, 08:22:53 PM »
They're the only ones with a lost and empty package payment guarantee.
would that not put them head and shoulders above the rest?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5265 on: December 27, 2023, 08:30:10 PM »
would that not put them head and shoulders above the rest?

Only to the extent that they pay reliably, otherwise their guarantee isnít worth the paper itís written on.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5266 on: December 27, 2023, 11:29:48 PM »
So the only non Jewish one is BFMR it seems also.
I can't confirm that chesky landau owns deal and runner he claims not to but then again buying groupcowners like hiding behind they're companies in case anything goes wrong
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5267 on: December 27, 2023, 11:34:51 PM »
I think it's Pinny Silberstein with deal & runner

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5268 on: December 27, 2023, 11:46:42 PM »
I think it's Pinny Silberstein with deal & runner

He's not the owner. He's just a high level employee

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5269 on: December 27, 2023, 11:49:07 PM »
So the only non Jewish one is BFMR it seems also.
I can't confirm that chesky landau owns deal and runner he claims not to but then again buying groupcowners like hiding behind they're companies in case anything goes wrong
A relative of his is definitely high up there

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5270 on: December 28, 2023, 12:30:14 AM »
Looks like a shared warehouse to me. What would be in those huge tanks?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5271 on: December 28, 2023, 01:11:29 AM »
Looks like a shared warehouse to me. What would be in those huge tanks?
it is shared

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5272 on: December 30, 2023, 09:34:55 PM »
Anyone know if USA buying group has drop off in Lakewood?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5273 on: December 30, 2023, 11:02:46 PM »
Yes, they do.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5274 on: December 31, 2023, 06:03:35 PM »
Yes, they do.
Where is the drop-off location? Its on oberlin?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5275 on: December 31, 2023, 07:49:55 PM »
Where is the drop-off location? Its on oberlin?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5276 on: December 31, 2023, 07:54:12 PM »
Where is the drop-off location? Its on oberlin?
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We will be open for drop off from 1:30PM- 5PM
475 Oberlin Ave S. Suite 2a
All boxes must be sealed and labeled with a drop off label.
There will be no checks on the spot.
They often do provide checks on the spot

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5277 on: January 01, 2024, 03:00:35 PM »
I applied for Amazon tax exempt for reselling is that legal and does it work?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5278 on: January 01, 2024, 04:38:48 PM »
I applied for Amazon tax exempt for reselling is that legal and does it work?
reseller? Yes it works

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5279 on: January 01, 2024, 06:10:46 PM »
Having big issues too. from requesting on 11/21