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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

https://www.mixcloud.com/zev-brenner/talkline-with-zev-brenner-on-credit-card-scams-affecting-the-orthodox-jewish-community/

http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5280 on: January 01, 2024, 07:54:47 PM »
Having big issues too. from requesting on 11/21
With who?
Details?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5281 on: January 02, 2024, 07:31:26 PM »


This guy has a lot of Chutzpah.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5282 on: January 02, 2024, 07:48:27 PM »


This guy has a lot of Chutzpah.

Why?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5283 on: January 02, 2024, 08:03:29 PM »
Why?
Because he claims to be doing it "לְתּוֹעֶלֶת הָרַבִּים" and as a "volunteer" while making big $$$.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5284 on: January 02, 2024, 08:30:43 PM »
Because he claims to be doing it "לְתּוֹעֶלֶת הָרַבִּים" and as a "volunteer" while making big $$$.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5285 on: January 02, 2024, 08:31:37 PM »


This guy has a lot of Chutzpah.
The worst kind.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5286 on: January 02, 2024, 08:50:58 PM »


This guy has a lot of Chutzpah.

no catch?

he probably caught a few people already.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5287 on: January 02, 2024, 08:53:38 PM »
no catch?

he probably caught a few people already.
I'm curious how many people he signed up.
I saw he had an ad in the bp or the voice, I can't remember which

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5288 on: January 02, 2024, 08:58:23 PM »
“Our volunteers”…
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5289 on: January 02, 2024, 09:06:00 PM »
Cute website

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5290 on: January 03, 2024, 07:36:16 PM »


This guy has a lot of Chutzpah.
Got this hung on my front door today. Used the hisorerus to get another ink, BH was approved. Didn’t use his link so not to tarnish the lishmah aspect of his psa.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5291 on: January 03, 2024, 11:14:29 PM »
Because he claims to be doing it "לְתּוֹעֶלֶת הָרַבִּים" and as a "volunteer" while making big $$$.
well he probably has a wife and kids and that makes a רבים

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5292 on: January 03, 2024, 11:22:49 PM »
well he probably has a wife and kids and that makes a רבים


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5293 on: January 03, 2024, 11:31:36 PM »
I got a robo call from them, and I'm on very few robo call lists (famous last words). I did choose the option of having an agent call me, though I didn't get a phone call.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5294 on: January 04, 2024, 12:04:34 AM »
the new ad now says on the bottom "lezchus refua shelaima ploni..." . not kidding

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5295 on: January 04, 2024, 12:15:55 AM »
Got this hung on my front door today. Used the hisorerus to get another ink, BH was approved. Didn’t use his link so not to tarnish the lishmah aspect of his psa.
you should call him and let him know the zchus he has that he was nsorer you to do it. I'm sure he'll be so happy to hear how much he is being mzaka the rabim

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5296 on: January 04, 2024, 12:58:00 AM »
By us, we call this type of thing תולעת הרבים

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5297 on: January 04, 2024, 02:16:28 AM »


This guy has a lot of Chutzpah.
He’s breaking the affiliate terms, in multiple ways.
Ask your LOR if you can report him for that.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5298 on: January 04, 2024, 06:40:09 AM »
Ltoeles harabim I called them and requested a callback for more info. Maybe we can be mezakeh the rabim to join in this mitzvah? Hopefully they have enough volunteers to assist.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5299 on: January 04, 2024, 08:44:01 AM »
By us, we call this type of thing תולעת הרבים

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