Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3960428 times)

elit · « **Reply #1000 on:** July 21, 2016, 02:10:47 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on July 21, 2016, 02:09:25 PM

I haven't heard a single Republican say that Trump is better than HRC on foreign policy.

Then you need to get out more

JTZ · « **Reply #1001 on:** July 21, 2016, 02:25:55 PM »

Quote from: ygygold on July 21, 2016, 01:41:35 PM

This was mentioned in the general election thread, but since that thread gets almost no posts, I'll bring it here.

In an interview with the New York Times when asked about Russia’s threatening activities, which have unnerved the small Baltic States that are among the more recent entrants into NATO, Mr. Trump said that if Russia attacked them, he would decide whether to come to their aid only after reviewing if those nations have “fulfilled their obligations to us.”

How, just how can someone vote for this guy?

Because you agree with him on this issue?

skyguy918 · « **Reply #1002 on:** July 21, 2016, 03:03:58 PM »

We have a fair number of people here who keep repeating that the only thing that matters is SCOTUS nominations. Can one of you elaborate? Why is it you think that all of the other powers granted to the president in the constitution are meaningless?

Moshe123 · « **Reply #1003 on:** July 21, 2016, 03:04:07 PM »

Rep. Adam Kinzinger on Thursday dressed down Donald Trump for his “utterly disastrous” proposal to aid NATO allies only if they’re paid their bills, saying Trump’s “narcissistic” foreign policy agenda has him rethinking his vote.
The Illinois Republican’s comments at a POLITICO panel event in Cleveland came in the wake of an interview Trump gave The New York Times in which the Manhattan billionaire said he would evaluate on a case-by-case basis whether or not the U.S. would aid a NATO ally under attack. The comments sent shock waves through military communities on both sides of the Atlantic and prompted a stern rebuke from European leaders, NATO itself and even fellow Republicans.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-nato-adam-kinzinger-225960#ixzz4F4Ufhwhz

Is he a Trump opponent? No. He just said this earlier: Adam Kinzinger: ‘Ludicrous’ for Cruz to Speak and Not Endorse Trump

Trump is burning the party to the ground.

username · « **Reply #1004 on:** July 21, 2016, 03:09:49 PM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 21, 2016, 03:03:58 PM

We have a fair number of people here who keep repeating that the only thing that matters is SCOTUS nominations. Can one of you elaborate? Why is it you think that all of the other powers granted to the president in the constitution are meaningless?

I think because you can unvote a president and most/some of his damage after 4 years. But a SC decision can take decades to reverse.
Also, the president's powers are (supposed) to be checked by congress and the court, but the SC, once they rule, there is no recourse.

skyguy918 · « **Reply #1005 on:** July 21, 2016, 03:15:13 PM »

Quote from: username on July 21, 2016, 03:09:49 PM

I think because you can unvote a president and most/some of his damage after 4 years. But a SC decision can take decades to reverse.
Also, the president's powers are (supposed) to be checked by congress and the court, but the SC, once they rule, there is no recourse.

Except that there's a check/balance to that too - Senate confirmations. Also, your comment about 'unvoting' a president (which I assume meant impeachment) applies to SC justices as well.

Even without all that though, those comments just serve to potentially make SCOTUS appointments at the top of the list. I don't see how that diminishes the importance of a president's other roles/powers.

username · « **Reply #1006 on:** July 21, 2016, 03:16:54 PM »

Quote from: username on July 21, 2016, 03:09:49 PM

I think because you can unvote a president and most/some of his damage after 4 years.

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 21, 2016, 03:15:13 PM

Also, your comment about 'unvoting' a president (which I assume meant impeachment) applies to SC justices as well.

Unvote after 4 years means that he is up for reelection after 4 years.

EJB · « **Reply #1007 on:** July 21, 2016, 07:06:10 PM »

Quote from: Dan on July 21, 2016, 11:02:09 AM

Lol.
It would be more telling if he know a leader that wasn't named Chavez, Erdogan, or Putin...

You forgot hitler

Moshe123 · « **Reply #1008 on:** July 21, 2016, 07:22:56 PM »

Quote from: EJB on July 21, 2016, 07:06:10 PM

You forgot hitler

Yup. Ivana Trump said that Trump had a Mein Kampf in his night table.

JTZ · « **Reply #1009 on:** July 21, 2016, 07:31:53 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on July 21, 2016, 07:22:56 PM

Yup. Ivana Trump said that Trump had a Mein Kampf in his night table.

Learn from history don't be afraid of it.

skyguy918 · « **Reply #1010 on:** July 21, 2016, 07:53:32 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on July 21, 2016, 07:22:56 PM

Yup. Ivana Trump said that Trump had a Mein Kampf in his night table.

Not quite, but the story is actually much funnier than that.

Quote

According to a 1990 Vanity Fairinterview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald Trump, now a leading Republican presidential candidate, kept a book of Hitler's speeches near his bed.
...
When Brenner asked Trump about how he came to possess Hitler's speeches, "Trump hesitated" and then said, "Who told you that?"

"I don't remember," Brenner reportedly replied.

Trump then recalled, "Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of 'Mein Kampf,' and he's a Jew."

Brenner added that Davis did acknowledge that he gave Trump a book about Hitler.

"But it was 'My New Order,' Hitler's speeches, not 'Mein Kampf,'" Davis reportedly said. "I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I'm not Jewish."

After Trump and Brenner changed topics, Trump returned to the subject and reportedly said, "If, I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them."

thaber · « **Reply #1011 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:25:44 PM »

Quote from: ExGingi on July 21, 2016, 01:39:29 PM

FTFY

PSA:

See http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Unless you can vote in one of the top 15 states in the following list, your vote will make NO DIFFERENCE. (Notice that Texas isn't up there, so Cruz doesn't have to vote for Trump, but he should encourage people in FL, CO, IA, PA etc. to vote for the antithesis of Ruth Bader-Ginsburg if they want to preserve our democracy and freedom.)

See today's WSJ editorial by Karl Rove

elit · « **Reply #1012 on:** July 21, 2016, 08:37:39 PM »

Quote from: skyguy918 on July 21, 2016, 10:56:20 AM

It's pretty telling that my first reaction was, wow - he knows who Erdogan is?

Question is did he hear of him before Friday?

CS1 · « **Reply #1013 on:** July 21, 2016, 10:15:50 PM »

LIVE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_lpyG-ddec

Work-for-ur-muny · « **Reply #1014 on:** July 21, 2016, 10:20:51 PM »

"I humbly accept your nomination for the presidency of the United States"

JTZ · « **Reply #1015 on:** July 21, 2016, 10:24:16 PM »

If the Jewish community doesn't want to accept Ivanka we will gladly welcome her with open arms. Wow what a powerful women. I can see why men would be intimidated by her.

Work-for-ur-muny · « **Reply #1016 on:** July 21, 2016, 10:25:20 PM »

Still very unpresidential.

CS1 · « **Reply #1017 on:** July 21, 2016, 10:28:01 PM »

Quote from: JTZ on July 21, 2016, 10:24:16 PM

If the Jewish community doesn't want to accept Ivanka we will gladly welcome her with open arms. Wow what powerful women. I can see why men would be intimidated by her.

both Ivanka and her husband will have a more positive, mature, and pro-Israel impact in the Trump administration in addition to his new, intelligent cabinet.
The future looks stronger and safer with them and their future more educated and ethical team, rather than the alternative.

Sport · « **Reply #1018 on:** July 21, 2016, 10:50:53 PM »

Likely his best speach.

Work-for-ur-muny · « **Reply #1019 on:** July 21, 2016, 10:57:54 PM »

Quote from: Sport on July 21, 2016, 10:50:53 PM

Likely his best speach.

Yup. Getting somewhat better. Except when he runs Trumpishly off script...

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