US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[cholent]

It's just amazing to me how relatively muted the frum community's reaction to this had been. Just imagine if Obama had done the same, and then defended his decision to omit mention of Jews from the statement.

[JTZ]

It's just amazing to me how relatively muted the frum community's reaction to this had been. Just imagine if Obama had done the same, and then defended his decision to omit mention of Jews from the statement.

We all know why they are mute and what the reaction would have been if Obama did it.

[cholent]

We all know why they are mute and what the reaction would have been if Obama did it.

Exactly. I'd like to see some of the Trump supporters here stand up and explain this.

[JTZ]

Exactly. I'd like to see some of the Trump supporters here stand up and explain this.

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. 

[yuneeq]

All I know about him is what he has said.
You might want to reread what I said or ask for clarification. 

I know exactly what you said.
My point is your silly to think that people that have Jewish families (Trump), and are known to be very pro-Jews by those who know them well (Trump and Bannon) are somehow very anti-semitic. We already know for a fact that Trump is already far better for Israel then probably any other president, definitely better than the previous one that demonized Israel every chance he got. And many of us that know people that are either close with Trump or his administration all say that he likes Jews.

So you can read into his words and try to find a way to call him or Bannon an anti-semite but Jews will find it laughable.
It's almost the equivalent of calling all of us anti-semites, it doesn't really deserve a serious response.

[JTZ]

I know exactly what you said.
My point is your silly to think that people that have Jewish families (Trump), and are known to be very pro-Jews by those who know them well (Trump and Bannon) are somehow very anti-semitic. We already know for a fact that Trump is already far better for Israel then probably any other president, definitely better than the previous one that demonized Israel every chance he got.

So you can read into his words and try to find a way to call him an anti-semite but Jews will find it laughable.
It's almost the equivalent of calling all of us anti-semites, it doesn't really deserve a serious response.

Since you keep putting your foot into your mouth I will explain before you look more foolish. I did not call Bannon an anti-Semite. I said I don't know. Here is what I did say: "I will say based on what you believe is an anti-Semite he is one of the worse ones."
That was directed at SS. "You" in that sentence is SS. SS has called me many times an anti-Semite. I am using that as a base land for what he (SS) believes is an anti-Semite.  Based on that baseline Bannon IMHO is way worse than me.

[Super Speed]

Since you keep putting your foot into your mouth I will explain before you look more foolish. I did not call Bannon an anti-Semite. I said I don't know. Here is what I did say: "I will say based on what you believe is an anti-Semite he is one of the worse ones."
That was directed at SS. "You" in that sentence is SS. SS has called me many times an anti-Semite. I am using that as a base land for what he (SS) believes is an anti-Semite.  Based on that baseline Bannon IMHO is way worse than me.

Or I can cite alternative facts

[JTZ]

Or I can cite alternative facts

You are good at that. 

[Super Speed]

You are good at that. 

I have tough competition tho

[JTZ]

I have tough competition tho

The other Trumpsters do give you a run for your money. For the record you are not #1 with AF. You want to guess which member? 

[ExGingi]

Just to bring back an old argument of mine pay attention to the last paragraph of this:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/supreme-court-affirmative-action-abortion-unions.html

[JTZ]

Just to bring back an old argument of mine pay attention to the last paragraph of this:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/supreme-court-affirmative-action-abortion-unions.html

Wants me to login.

[username]

Wants me to login.

hit the X (stop loading) as soon as you see the article.

[JTZ]

Just to bring back an old argument of mine pay attention to the last paragraph of this:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/supreme-court-affirmative-action-abortion-unions.html

Appointing a conservative justice and one that will vote to overturn RvW is miles apart. 

[JTZ]

Is all this mostly hot air?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/most-of-trump%e2%80%99s-executive-orders-aren%e2%80%99t-actually-executive-orders-here%e2%80%99s-why-that-matters/ar-AAmoYIA?li=BBnb7Kz

[Boruch999]

Is all this mostly hot air?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/most-of-trump%e2%80%99s-executive-orders-aren%e2%80%99t-actually-executive-orders-here%e2%80%99s-why-that-matters/ar-AAmoYIA?li=BBnb7Kz

Hot air pops corn 

[zh cohen]

I know exactly what you said.
My point is your silly to think that people that have Jewish families (Trump), and are known to be very pro-Jews by those who know them well (Trump and Bannon) are somehow very anti-semitic. We already know for a fact that Trump is already far better for Israel then probably any other president, definitely better than the previous one that demonized Israel every chance he got. And many of us that know people that are either close with Trump or his administration all say that he likes Jews.

So you can read into his words and try to find a way to call him or Bannon an anti-semite but Jews will find it laughable.
It's almost the equivalent of calling all of us anti-semites, it doesn't really deserve a serious response.

I have no opinion on whether Bannon is an anti-Semite or not, but saying someone can't be an anti-Semite because they have Jewish friends is as stupid as saying someone isn't racist because they have black friends.

Throughout history anti-Semites always justified their hated of Jews by explaining that "most Jews aren't like my Moshe"

[ExGingi]

The best thing that came from any POTUS in recent history: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316839-trump-to-sign-order-reducing-regulations

Now let's see a constitutional amendment requiring every senator and congressman to be tested on the content of every bill up for a vote, and get an 80 or better passing mark, before being allowed to vote.

[yuneeq]

I have no opinion on whether Bannon is an anti-Semite or not, but saying someone can't be an anti-Semite because they have Jewish friends is as stupid as saying someone isn't racist because they have black friends.

Throughout history anti-Semites always justified their hated of Jews by explaining that "most Jews aren't like my Moshe"

That's not what I said, I said that the Jewish friends claim that they like Jews/Israel.

[aygart]

Is all this mostly hot air?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/most-of-trump%e2%80%99s-executive-orders-aren%e2%80%99t-actually-executive-orders-here%e2%80%99s-why-that-matters/ar-AAmoYIA?li=BBnb7Kz

Considering that we are talking about the biggest source of global warming for a few decades already in Trumps mouth I would say that even if there is substance it is hot air.