US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[JTZ]

If you judge his entire 4-8 year presidency on his tweets, yes, he fails miserably.

But that's a very dumb way to judge.

That's all we have so far. I would love for him to work with congress and pass things he said he was going to do. It is early but so far he has done nothing on this front.

[JTZ]

It means he doesn't like his decision, and that's Trump's way of saying it.

It's ridiculous, but entertaining, and probably effective.

This isn't some reality show here. It is our country we are talking about. How can you have any confidence in someone that displays this type of behavior?

[hachover]

Here is the difference in a nutshell. You are obsessed with the media. I am obsessed with what OUR president says and does.

Tweets having been the one exception, and its likely that Trump will have to stop tweeting soon, the media is the ONLY way you know what our president says and does.

Even above where you claim to know the size of the crowd because you watched it on TV, you only claim to know that because you trust the media. I'm not saying they are actually this dishonest, but they could have cut to taped images while overlaying audio to trick viewers about the size of the crowd during the speech and you would not have known the difference.

Almost everything you see and hear from the media is clipped to a soundbite or a snippy quote. If the main stream media intentionally distorts their reporting to advance their personal biases, that is very damaging and nothing to poo-poo at.

If the media is untrustworthy, you don't have much to judge the president on.

[JTZ]

Even above where you claim to know the size of the crowd because you watched it on TV, you only claim to know that because you trust the media. I'm not saying they are actually this dishonest, but they could have cut to taped images while overlaying audio to trick viewers about the size of the crowd during the speech and you would not have known the difference.

Have you lost your mind completely? Did FOX news do this also? Is Elvis alive? Did we not land on the moon? 

[aygart]

So how do you talk about any real issue when the standard response here is you are just spewing the liberal BS?
I want to know how he is going to replace ACA with something better. I want to know how is going to eliminate IS from the face of the earth. I see nothing in his tweets or EO about these serious issues. His tweets are about attacking those that disagree with him.

when did you get such a response when discussing a substantive issue? When did you discuss a substantive issue to get such a response? If you are not finding it in his tweets maybe you should look elsewhere. Keep in mind though that he is only president for 2 weeks.

[elit]

..and you like most here refuse to answer a simple question or call him out on his stupid tweets.

No. I will not allow you to deflect.
I feel no.need to defend trump i dont like him i didnt vote for him. But i do get annoyed at the childish argumets from both sides theres just a lot more coming from the liberals these days.
All I got involved in was a conversation you started about the bowling Green massacre I responded to that and you responded by switching to  alternative facts. Period. nothing else to talk about.

[JTZ]

when did you get such a response when discussing a substantive issue? When did you discuss a substantive issue to get such a response? If you are not finding it in his tweets maybe you should look elsewhere. Keep in mind though that he is only president for 2 weeks.

Questioning the legitimacy of a judge by calling him "so-called" because he didn't agree with you is a serious issue. He also did this when the judge ruled against him in the Trump university case. This shows he has no respect for the judicial branch.

[Cheesecake]

That's all we have so far. I would love for him to work with congress and pass things he said he was going to do. It is early but so far he has done nothing on this front.

But it's nothing to judge based on, so don't.

[Cheesecake]

This isn't some reality show here. It is our country we are talking about. How can you have any confidence in someone that displays this type of behavior?

I don't. I wouldn't have confidence in someone who didn't display this behavior either. I say wait and see, but don't judge based on nonsense.

[JTZ]

All I got involved in was a conversation you started about the bowling Green massacre I responded to that and you responded by switching to  alternative facts. Period. nothing else to talk about.

Lets talk about BGM and leave the media out of it. Here is what she said: "and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green Massacre"
She said she meant to say terrorist and not massacre so lets do that.
"and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green Terrorist Massacre"
They masterminded what? What she said is laughable. AF was brought in to point out how she thinks. Another indefensible laughable statement.

[Cheesecake]

Questioning the legitimacy of a judge by calling him "so-called" because he didn't agree with you is a serious issue. He also did this when the judge ruled against him in the Trump university case. This shows he has no respect for the judicial branch.

No, it shows he overreacts to someone disagreeing with him.

This is news to you?

[JTZ]

I say wait and see, but don't judge based on nonsense.

You mean like putting Iran on notice and then Iran does more tests the next day?

[yuneeq]

Here is the difference in a nutshell. You are obsessed with the media. I am obsessed with what OUR president says and does.

Media can be a lot more powerful than the president, and I would say it has been like that for a while.

The president made a lot of promises and so far he has been following through on them. That's a fact. Trump is following through with his plan to build a wall. Plans to fix immigration. Nominated a level-headed conservative judge. He has been considered a factor in many major companies staying or expanding in the US. And yes he gave Mattis 30 days to come up with a plan to defeat ISIS, what news are you reading. He is on his way to dismantling the ACA and will need the R's help to draft a new plan. Before you start spewing that he didn't build the wall in a week, just remember, he hasn't been one of those politicians that flip flop on promises a day after the election, or delay fulfilling the controversial promises until everyone forgets about it.

You obsess over some stupid tweet, I obsess over what he promises and what he actually does.

[JTZ]

No, it shows he overreacts to someone disagreeing with him.

This is news to you?

No but to try and say this nothing is ridicules. IMHO no one here would accept this type of behavior from their children but justify it when it comes from Trump.

[aygart]

Questioning the legitimacy of a judge by calling him "so-called" because he didn't agree with you is a serious issue. He also did this when the judge ruled against him in the Trump university case. This shows he has no respect for the judicial branch.

He has no respect for anyone on a personal level. How many times does that need to be repeated?

[elit]

Lets talk about BGM and leave the media out of it. Here is what she said: "and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green Massacre"
She said she meant to say terrorist and not massacre so lets do that.
"and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green Terrorist Massacre"
They masterminded what? What she said is laughable. AF was brought in to point out how she thinks. Another indefensible laughable statement.

Honestly doesn't really  matter to.me she probably meant something like they were masterminds behind some terror plot. Who cares this stuff doesn't matter....
She thinks that's she's in a battle with the media so she argues extremes. Sounds awfully familiar

[Cheesecake]

No but to try and say this nothing is ridicules. IMHO no one here would accept this type of behavior from their children but justify it when it comes from Trump.

I'm not Trump's Mommy.
Who justified it?

[JTZ]

You obsess over some stupid tweet, I obsess over what he promises and what he actually does.

Have you been following him for the last year? His tweets is what he believes and is doing. I am glad you agree about him being stupid.

[aygart]

Lets talk about BGM and leave the media out of it. Here is what she said: "and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green Massacre"
She said she meant to say terrorist and not massacre so lets do that.
"and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green Terrorist Massacre"
They masterminded what? What she said is laughable. AF was brought in to point out how she thinks. Another indefensible laughable statement.

How about that the bowling green terrorists were the masterminds of a massacre?

[JTZ]

She thinks that's she's in a battle with the media so she argues extremes. Sounds awfully familiar

I totally agree with you on that one.