Poll

Who are you leaning towards?

Likud
5 (17.2%)
Blue and White
0 (0%)
Shas
0 (0%)
Charedi Parties(UTJ Aguda)
15 (51.7%)
Labor
2 (6.9%)
Zeut
1 (3.4%)
Meretz
0 (0%)
Yisroel Bateinu
0 (0%)
New Right (Bennet, Shaked)
1 (3.4%)
Kahane Parties
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: April 09, 2019, 05:19:44 AM

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1580 on: June 22, 2022, 03:58:00 PM »
Bennett to voluntarily retire.

FTFY, if it can even be called that. The Hebrew term is התפוטר which is kind of "asked to retire". In this case he faced reality and decided to make believe he's saving some grace.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1581 on: June 22, 2022, 04:13:24 PM »

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« Reply #1582 on: June 22, 2022, 04:15:25 PM »
he worked?

Pretty hard, to get to and stick to his seat despite all odds. Lasted one year more than expected.
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« Reply #1583 on: June 22, 2022, 04:22:33 PM »
How much did he make ? All his predecessors had to work till they were very old. :)

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« Reply #1584 on: June 22, 2022, 05:20:32 PM »
How much did he make ? All his predecessors had to work till they were very old. :)

Well, he was previously wealthy from some kind of Tech "exit". He also had his house renovated and upgraded to a fortress for ILS 50MM - though I doubt that translates into market value, except for possibly mobsters or Russian oligarchs. It would be nice if his real-estate taxes are now increased based on the upgrades.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1585 on: June 24, 2022, 12:35:18 PM »
Terrible strategy IMHO.

Any campaign using לנו plays right into Lieberman, Meretz and all other anti-Yiddishkeit parties hands as it emphasizes sectarianism and division (besides for being untrue/inaccurate, since UTJ voters will mostly manage with Shabbos, Kashrus, Giyur, etc. regardless of what the state does, but due to כל ישראל ערבין they should care more about the fact that the general population is hurt)

https://twitter.com/Zira_politit/status/1539679187602214912


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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1586 on: June 27, 2022, 03:24:02 AM »
Terrible strategy IMHO.

Any campaign using לנו plays right into Lieberman, Meretz and all other anti-Yiddishkeit parties hands as it emphasizes sectarianism and division (besides for being untrue/inaccurate, since UTJ voters will mostly manage with Shabbos, Kashrus, Giyur, etc. regardless of what the state does, but due to כל ישראל ערבין they should care more about the fact that the general population is hurt)

https://twitter.com/Zira_politit/status/1539679187602214912



nothing new that they are/see themselves/promote themselves primarily as a sectoral party.
the ערבות mindset which we had the good fortune שהנחילנו רבינו and which he constantly nudged the party and its leadership towards, is hardly taken for granted today, especially as a primary goal

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« Reply #1587 on: June 27, 2022, 09:59:05 AM »
nothing new that they are/see themselves/promote themselves primarily as a sectoral party.
the ערבות mindset which we had the good fortune שהנחילנו רבינו and which he constantly nudged the party and its leadership towards, is hardly taken for granted today, especially as a primary goal

Nothing new there, but I am talking from a strategic/tactical point of view. Nothing can ignite a Lieberman or Meretz campaign as well as this.
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1588 on: June 28, 2022, 02:20:59 AM »
The biggest joke of the whole thing, is that the current govt had over 12 months to pass a bill not allowing Bibi to run while under indictment, yet they didn't do it. The entire essence of this govt was only to be anti Bibi, yet couldn't even pass this bill.

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« Reply #1589 on: June 28, 2022, 08:06:15 AM »
Can someone explain to me what happened that Benet decided to leave?
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1590 on: June 28, 2022, 11:28:58 AM »
Can someone explain to me what happened that Benet decided to leave?
what ive heard from some people is that bennet, either now or for a long time, has decided that the only thing that really matters is bennet. being that he's reached the top (at least in his eyes) and has become prime minister, he knows the only way to go now is down down down. so like the rat he is, hes jumping off the sinking ship before he turns into an even bigger laughingstock.

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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1591 on: June 29, 2022, 12:46:12 PM »
Bye bye Bennett

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« Reply #1592 on: June 29, 2022, 01:39:26 PM »
Bye bye Bennett

Anyone shedding any tears?
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« Reply #1593 on: June 29, 2022, 06:15:07 PM »
I seem to get a feeling that we are on the cusp of גאולה האמיתית והשלימה.

With all the יתבררו ויתלבנו ויצרפו רבים that is going on in the last days and hours, both in Israeli politics (with everyone's true faces being revealed) and the Israeli court where the indictment against Netanyahu seems to be falling apart to a level where his attorneys are rumored to ask the judges to declare the indictment as invalid, there must be some ultimate good coming out.
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« Reply #1594 on: June 29, 2022, 07:03:52 PM »
Anyone shedding any tears?
I'm actually really sad for him.

In the weeks before he became PM, I actually took a real liking to him. I never really knew much about him until I saw a few videos of him at the time, including one that Dan extolled on DDMS. Then, without warning, he did something which we saw as spineless and backstabbing, when he made a deal which his voters never agreed to. He seemed to have been disillusioned by the prospect of the power, like so many others, and he made moves that he will have to live with forever.

Yes, he will always be proud that he is a former PM, but I can't imagine it will be anything less than an empty, nagging sense of hollow pride. At the end of the day, I don't see any way he could feel content with what he did, and now he has to ride off into the sunset feeling that he failed to stand up for his convictions when the sparkle of power loomed before him.

So yes, I'm sad for him. So much potential, now a deflated dream and a lifetime of internal regret.

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« Reply #1595 on: June 29, 2022, 07:18:37 PM »
now he has to ride off into the sunset feeling
Don't worry, he will be back! It's Israel ;D

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« Reply #1596 on: June 29, 2022, 07:21:52 PM »
Don't worry, he will be back! It's Israel ;D

Yeah. Pretty amazing how polls show Shaked getting 5 seats! Does she even have that many people left in her party? And who would vote for her? As bad as Bennet was, she is considered even worse.

ETA: Where do 5 people come from? (Never mind that I don't think she will get votes).
https://twitter.com/omerbabai/status/1542242580959723520
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« Reply #1597 on: June 30, 2022, 03:35:52 PM »
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Re: 2019-2021 Israeli Election (See Also: Definition Of Insanity)
« Reply #1599 on: July 10, 2022, 12:23:11 PM »
The election is about only Bibi vs anyone but Bibi, it's about things like this:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/court-rules-online-civil-marriageד-valid-upending-israels-religious-status-quo/amp/
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