Its Open Season on Jews

[zh cohen]

Would you agree most in this country view them as fighting for the Jewish people?

Yes, but only because that is what they used to do.

[Yehuda57]

Now everyone can pull out their dictionary. It is for this reason that I don't really like the term racism and prefer to use more general bigotry. Technically racism and anti semitism are two forms of bigotry. Colloquially people use racism to refer to both.

Exactly. And that's how Whoopi can use the dictionary to exclude antisemitism and say she doesn't have to care about that "bd ya'll can fight about that amongst yourselves". That's why this whole conversation is dumb.

Call everything racism or none of it racism.

[LNS]

can someone post the original clip of what got her suspended or was it posted already and i missed it ?

[jj1000]

@CountValentine Shaare Tefila Congregation v. Cobb, 481 U.S. 615 Supreme Court ruled Jews are a race and protected under racism laws.

FWIW.

[CountValentine]

Other groups should be mentioned. See what I edited to the post you quoted.

...but they are not. Millions were murdered along with the Jews but not one mentioned of that in this discussion.
Most don't even know millions were murdered along with the genocide of the Jewish people.

[jj1000]

...but they are not. Millions were murdered along with the Jews but not one mentioned of that in this discussion.
Most don't even know millions were murdered along with the genocide of the Jewish people.

Blame it on Hitler. He's the first one to push the narrative that the Jew is the main enemy of Aryan's.

From Mein Kampf "The mightiest counterpart to the Aryan is represented by the Jew."

[CountValentine]

FWIW.

[CountValentine]

Blame it on Hitler. He's the first one to push the narrative that the Jew is the main enemy of Aryan's.

From Mein Kampf "The mightiest counterpart to the Aryan is represented by the Jew."

No I blame it on all of us who only talk about part of what happened at that time.

[jj1000]

No I blame it on all of us who only talk about part of what happened at that time.

Leaving this here for educational purposes.

[CountValentine]

Leaving this here for educational purposes.

Which ones do we consider a race? 

[jj1000]

Which ones do we consider a race? 

To side step this.

I was Google what the world population would be if not for the Nazis. And found this, and wow, didn't see this coming:

https://www.quora.com/What-would-have-been-the-worlds-population-today-had-there-been-no-WW1-and-WW2

The top answer. In short, war lead to scientific discoveries that has saved far more lives than killed in war. So can't really judge a chain of events like WWI and WWII.

[CountValentine]

The top answer. In short, war lead to scientific discoveries that has saved far more lives than killed in war. So can't really judge a chain of events like WWI and WWII.

...but is it correct?

[jj1000]

...but is it correct?

Leaving this here for educational purposes.

That's a question for science fiction authors IMO. Just interesting is all.

[CountValentine]

That's a question for science fiction authors IMO. Just interesting is all.

Start a thread as that is an easy one to take either side. 

[S209]

@CountValentine Shaare Tefila Congregation v. Cobb, 481 U.S. 615 Supreme Court ruled Jews are a race and protected under racism laws.

*unanimously

[aygart]

No I blame it on all of us who only talk about part of what happened at that time.

I am fine with others being brought into it, but the gencidal focus was on the Jews. That is irrelevant to the discussion about WG anyhow. Regarding her comments, the issue I have is her portrayal that bigotry not directed at blacks is somehow not her issue. I have the same issue with Jews who feel that bigotry not directed at Jews is not their issue.

[aygart]

IIRC you are on record as considering them the final arbiters.

[gozalim]

1. Whoopi isn't an antisemite. but if we make an exception to canceling, the message isn't "whoopi is a good person", the message is "antsiemitism is forgivable"

2. based on a clip from colbert, seems like she still doesn't get it...

[TimT]

2. based on a clip from colbert, seems like she still doesn't get it...

If she could make such an idiotic statement as “it’s 2 white groups fighting each other” she’s never going to get it.
Let’s see if she accepts Yad Vashem’s invitation.

[CountValentine]

2. based on a clip from colbert, seems like she still doesn't get it...

She bases race on color, and I bet most of the country does. What part doesn't she get?