US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[Dan]

+1,000,000 especially to blacks and Latinos...

[Moshe123]

Republicans are dropping him like flies today and tonight.

List:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/08/29/us/politics/100000004612887.mobile.html

[elit]

+1,000,000 especially to blacks and Latinos...

I think Trump just became more relatable to the majority of American men.

Brilliant. Must of been the trump campaign that leaked the audio

[Tuna Baygel]

Brilliant. Must of been the trump campaign that leaked the audio

+1

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[elit]

+1

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=67021.0

Sarcasm emoji??

[churnbabychurn]

Republicans are dropping him like flies today and tonight.

List:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/08/29/us/politics/100000004612887.mobile.html

Yeah, put a fork in him. He done.

[joe1234]

Donald trump is going to win and when that happens, don't forget I called it!!

[A3]

This is a country that purchased 50 millions copies of 50 shades of grey. Maybe we like that talk?

[Sammy82]

If Trump wins this thing, it only shows how bad Hilary is. Maybe she'll finally call it quits.

[ilherman]

Tomorrow's debate will most probably be the dirtiest  in worlds history..

There should be a graphic warning before broadcasting the debate.

I still think if the Donald will make a good case against the Clinton's tomorrow he still has a solid chance. Let's not forget Bill's countless affairs, where was everyone then? What Trump spoke about, Bill actually did, and he had Hillary backing her. It's the media controlling everything here but if Trump will bring out the above message in front of 100 MM people tomorrow and come out a solid winner from the debate he has a good chance.

Though I am not betting too much how good he will perform tomorrow.

In any case #poorbill

[Freddie]

And to think... In achashverosh's time this was considered fairly standard practice.

[aygart]

Tomorrow's debate will most probably be the dirtiest  in worlds history..

There should be a graphic warning before broadcasting the debate.

I still think if the Donald will make a good case against the Clinton's tomorrow he still has a solid chance. Let's not forget Bill's countless affairs, where was everyone then? What Trump spoke about, Bill actually did, and he had Hillary backing her. It's the media controlling everything here but if Trump will bring out the above message in front of 100 MM people tomorrow and come out a solid winner from the debate he has a good chance.

Though I am not betting too much how good he will perform tomorrow.

In any case #poorbill

He has said as much in his statement. Will TAG filter out the debate?

[aygart]

Republicans are dropping him like flies today and tonight.

List:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/08/29/us/politics/100000004612887.mobile.html

How many names on that list have you heard of before they were there?

[zale]

Doesn't matter if we think it disqualifies him. It matters if undecided women will not vote for him bec of itOf course noone is surprised but its terrible optics and it will sway women... arent you the big Scott Adams guy.  This is not an intellectual argument its an emotional one and audio like this can have a resounding effect

I'm no expert on women (snicker, snicker  ) but I do know that women are generally quicker to be appeased when it comes to these kinds of things. It's very unlikely that women who were excited to vote for him before are going to change their minds.

Also, unlike certain minorities who shall remain unnamed, women don't all think and vote alike (surprise surprise). Not every woman sees this tape as an insult to "women" in general.

This will affect him with swing voters, but it will be equally among men and women.

[aygart]

Doesn't matter if we think it disqualifies him. It matters if undecided women will not vote for him bec of itOf course noone is surprised but its terrible optics and it will sway women... arent you the big Scott Adams guy.  This is not an intellectual argument its an emotional one and audio like this can have a resounding effect

Bingo. Was very surprised to see aygart argue that line of reasoning.

I'm not the big Scott Adams guy but he did make sense to me out of some of trumps actions. I would bet his reaction was similar though. Did he write about it?

Just saw Adam's write up on this
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151504993671/why-does-this-happen-on-my-vacation-the-trump

Some quotes:

One of the requests came from anti-Trump GOP elite person Erick Erickson. (Middle name Erick, I assume.)
Some quotes:

3. I assume that publication of this recording was okayed by the Clinton campaign. And if not, the public will assume so anyway. That opens the door for Trump to attack in a proportionate way. No more mister-nice-guy. Gloves are off. Nothing is out of bounds. It is fair to assume that Bill and Hillary are about to experience the worst weeks of their lives.
4. If nothing new happens between now and election day, Clinton wins. The odds of nothing new happening in that timeframe is exactly zero.
5. I assume that 75% of male heads of state, including our own past presidents, are total dogs in their private lives. Like it or not, Trump is normal in that world.
12. Clinton supporters hated Trump before this latest outrage. Trump supporters already assumed he was like this. Independents probably assumed it too. Before you make assumptions about how this changes the election, see if anyone you know changes their vote because of it. All I have seen so far is people laughing about it.
13. My prediction of a 98% chance of Trump winning stays the same. Clinton just took the fight to Trump’s home field. None of this was a case of clever strategy or persuasion on Trump’s part. But if the new battleground is spousal fidelity, you have to like Trump’s chances.
14. Trump wasn’t running for Pope. He never claimed moral authority. His proposition has been that he’s an a_____ (essentially), but we need an a_____ to fight ISIS, ignore lobbyists, and beat up Congress. Does it change anything to have confirmation that he is exactly what you thought he was?
My thoughts above have more to do with reason than persuasion. And that means you can ignore all of it because reason is not part of decision-making when it comes to politics. On the persuasion level, all that matters is whether this new development changes what you already assumed about Trump.
Personally, it didn’t change what I assumed about Trump’s personal life. Your mileage may vary.
I hope this answers all of Erick Erick Erickson’s questions.

[Baruch]

I think there are many women, that would have allowed their husbands to vote Trump, who will now plead with them not to.

A certain percentage of men actually respect their wives (even Trump voters).

[David Smith]

Mr. Trumps prostitute finds his objectification of females deplorable? ROFL.

(Yes, I know, it's inappropriate to call his wife his prostitute.)

[Sammy82]

I think there are many women, that would have allowed their husbands to vote Trump, who will now plead with them not to.

A certain percentage of men actually respect their wives (even Trump voters).

If anybody else was running against Trump, maybe u would have a point but as long as his opponent's name is Clinton, that argument goes out the window.

[CS1]

I think there are many women, that would have allowed their husbands to vote Trump, who will now plead with them not to.

A certain percentage of men actually respect their wives (even Trump voters).

Given a choice of voting for Trump vs. voting for a lady that backs Max Blumenthal against Israel, and pays Iran $1 billion in cash, then I'd go for Trump, regardless of what he said in 2005. It's just talk -- No ladies have come forward.

[Dan]

I think there are many women, that would have allowed their husbands to vote Trump, who will now plead with them not to.

A certain percentage of men actually respect their wives (even Trump voters).

Allowed?