US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[yuneeq]

Sorry material girl we don't move the goalpost. If words matter so does yours!
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/president-trump-calls-madonna-%e2%80%98disgusting%e2%80%99-following-her-women%e2%80%99s-march-speech/ar-AAmj48T?li=BBnb7Kz

“Yes, I’m angry. Yes, I am outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House,”

After her speech drew widespread criticism, Madonna addressed the issue, writing on Instagram: “I am not a violent person, I do not promote violence and it’s important people hear and understand my speech in its entirety rather than one phrase taken wildly out of context.”

Can someone enlighten me how this phrase was wildly taken out of context?

[JTZ]

Can someone enlighten me how this phrase was wildly taken out of context?

Not me as my goalposts don't move. 

Maybe it was this part she was talking about and remember there where kids all over the place. Wake the f*** up. Good did not win this election but good will win in the end.

I actually like her music.

[yuneeq]

Hope he doesn't read this article as it might be the big one.
ELIZABETH!!! (calling Freddie for translation)
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/27/politics/trump-approval-rating-quinnipiac-poll/index.html

These polls are so wonky.
Rasumusen had 59% job approval for Trump yesterday (now down to 55%) while Quinnepac's poll released yesterday was 23% lower. That's a pretty huge swing. The average is about 45% which is pretty far from both pollsters. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

[Super Speed]

I guess there are those that do care but "alternative facts" say they don't care.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/petition-demanding-donald-trump-release-his-tax-returns-breaks-white-house-record/ar-AAmhJtZ?li=BBnb7Kz

No one said that nobody cares all they said is that apparently not enough people care because he got elected anyways.

[JTZ]

No one said that nobody cares all they said is that apparently not enough people care because he got elected anyways.

...but many that voted for him did care. Their were other issues more important to them.

[Super Speed]

...but many that voted for him did care. Their were other issues more important to them.

I personally think that unless there's reason to suspect he's using the office for his benefit to just let it go.

[aygart]

The wheels on the thread go round and round.....

[good sam]

Proof that trump us a dictator:
Bannon: "Media should keep its mouth shut & just listen for a while".
@jaketapper: Reminder that the president's top aide just told NYT that the press should keep its mouth shut. No.

That's ignorant.

Media bias is a bad thing, whether it's driven by government or other forces.

Do you think (or do you think that Trump thinks) that his statements will suppress the media? Everyone knows the opposite is true. Trump does not (and cannot) pose a threat to the First Amendment.

Trump is serving as a counterforce to the biased media. That's a good thing.

[Yehuda57]

I personally think that unless there's reason to suspect he's using the office for his benefit to just let it go.

Ummmm, that *is* the reason.

[good sam]

We will never know for certain whether fraud favored one candidate over the other but we can get an idea of how prevelant or rare it is, but only by investigating. Is there a reason not to investigate the possibility of voter fraud? I am definitely more concerned about the integrity of the actual vote than I am over whether a foreign government was involved in swaying public opinion.

Savage had in interesting take: voter fraud is assumed to have occurred given how easy it is. The onus is on the Dems to prove that it didn't, because it was they who challenged voter ID laws.

[aygart]

Ummmm, that *is* the reason.

How would you know that from his returns anyhow?

[Yehuda57]

How would you know that from his returns anyhow?

Oh Geez. Like you said, wheels on the bus.

[aygart]

Oh Geez. Like you said, wheels on the bus.

I don't remember it bveing discussed, but FTR I would want him to release his returns but would make a big deal.

[aygart]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-wax-presidency-wanes-as-a-human-comes-to-the-white-house-1485732562

[Ergel]

I can't get past the paywall, even through Google?

[JTZ]

Is this Trumps view of the holocaust or does Bannon have his ear?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-says-it-deliberately-omitted-jews-from-holocaust-remembrance-day-statement/ar-AAmnNEy?li=BBnb7Kz

[Super Speed]

Is this Trumps view of the holocaust or does Bannon have his ear?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-says-it-deliberately-omitted-jews-from-holocaust-remembrance-day-statement/ar-AAmnNEy?li=BBnb7Kz

Oh so now back to Bannon being an Anti Semite?

[JTZ]

Oh so now back to Bannon being an Anti Semite?

You don't have to be an anti-Semite to believe what he believes. I have no idea if he is an anti-Semite.
I will say based on what you believe is an anti-Semite he is one of the worse ones.

[yuneeq]

You don't have to be an anti-Semite to believe what he believes. I have no idea if he is an anti-Semite.
I will say based on what you believe is an anti-Semite he is one of the worse ones.

Lol you may as well call us anti-semites because we're always beating each other up over here.
Or maybe you can listen to the Jews and know that Bannon is fine.
I know a Jew that is a friend of Bannon and he says Bannon likes Jews.

But you probably know better than him.

[JTZ]

Lol you may as well call us anti-semites because we're always beating each other up over here.
Or maybe you can listen to the Jews and know that Bannon is fine.
I know a Jew that is a friend of Bannon and he says Bannon likes Jews.

But you probably know better than him.

All I know about him is what he has said.
You might want to reread what I said or ask for clarification.