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Kosher food list 2022

Zurich
HOTELS
-The Park Hyatt is fantastic and a 10 minute walk to shul.
Tram stop: Stockerstrasse

RESTAURANTS

Meat:

Florentin - Located inside he JCC https://florentin.rest/
Tram stop: Bahnhof Enge

Grill Cave

Food truck. Check website for opening hours. Burgers, sandwiches, hot dogs etc.
https://www.thegrillcave.co/


Milk/Parve:

Babi's Bagels (Bederstrasse corner Klopstockstrasse 8002 Zürich) Tram Stop "Waffenplatzstrasse"

Bakery:
Ma'Adan Bakery
Manessestrasse/Schimmelstrasse
Has delicious pastries and also sells sandwiches, salads, and some sushi.

Butcher:
Metzgerei Kol Tuv

Can preorder for pickup.
Can also deliver throughout Switzerland by post.
See website for details.

https://www.koltuv.ch/en

ATTRACTIONS
-Walk around the lake area
-Bahnhofstrasse window shopping
-Take a train to Lucerne and buy the golden ticket, included a boat ride on Lake Lucerne, cogwheel train and tram. Then take bus back to Lucerne
-When you arrive in Lucerne you can go to the tourist office to see a live view from Mount Pilatus (Or you can check online). If it's cloudy skip the cogwheel train and just take a nice boatride and explore the town, ancient bridges, and walk on top of the old city fortress walls.




Options in the Alps

Arosa: Metropol Hotel - quaint little old hotel. Not very fancy - it's like honeymooning in your grandmother's house (HT: Mrs. Moishebatchy). The food is very basic, but delicious. Mikva on premises. If skiing is your thing, the have an agreement with one of the ski places (Härtner) not to charge Metropol customers for ski rentals over Shabbos.


Need a meal on shabbes, please PM me (Chuchem). I live 15 minute walk from the hyatt, close to chabad. Zürich has no eiruv!

Major Attractions
“Please edit the wiki to add more attractions”

Central Switzerland
-Lucerne, Pilatus Offers: Cogwheel, Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mini Zip-line and fun area
-Titlis Offers: Gondolas, Snow Tubing, Trutti Bikes, Ice Museum, Row Boating
-Brunni Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Stroll in Lake(!)

Jungfrau Region
-Jungfrau/jungfraujoch Click here for the Kosher hotel in Wengen / 360-degree panorama of Jungfraujoch-Top of Europe
-Grindelwald Offers: Gondolas, mega Zip-line, Trutti Bikes

Eastern Switzerland
-St. Moritz
Davos / Klosters
Arosa Click here for the Kosher Levins hotel

Southern Switzerland
-Zermatt - "Matterhorn"
-Saas-Fee Offers: Gondolas, Alpine Sliding, Mega Zip-line, Trotti Bikes, (Saas-Grund has Monster Trotteres) and on top of "Allalin" you can go Snow Tubing and Skiing even in the summer!
-Crans Montana You can email the Kosher hotel in Crans Montana Hotelmk@gmail.com  or call them at 0032485640498 or 003233011600


HalbTax Pass

A HalbTax pass (or Half Fare card) is a card designated for tourists and not for Swiss residents (officially...). The card gives you half price on all public transportation like buses, trains, trams, boats and also on "most" cable cars (attractions). There are basically 4 kinds.

1) An annual pass, the price is currently 175 francs. If i remember correctly it has a photo ID of the recipient, so double check before sharing it.
Click here for the annual pass

2) A 30 day pass, the price is currently 120 francs, it does not have a photo ID on it.
Click here or here for the 30 day pass

3) - Recommended for frequent traveling Swiss Travel Pass - you prepay a set amount per day and get unlimited for that day (plus "optional" for a fee, for 1 month including the days you chose, it is a HalbTax, even on the prepaid free days, it's only free for all transportation, on cable cars you only get half off). The price per day depends on how many days you prepay, for example if you prepay 8 days, the price per day will be about 53 francs, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 73 francs. If you are 25 y/o or younger, you can get the Youth Pass which is cheaper - If you prepay 8 days  the price per day will be about 40 francs a day, if you prepay 3 days the price per day will be about 62 francs.
Click here (or here) for the prepaid pass

The card comes with a few days “you could chose your dates later”, officially when you want to use a certain day for the free day you should fill in on the pass that date, and when the first conductor comes he punches that day, but technically you can leave the date blank until the conductor comes, that way you have a chance if no conductor asks you for your card (happens quite often) you can save it for the next day :)

4) Swiss Transfer Ticket" This card costs 141 francs and is valid for 2 trips from and to the boarder or airport, for example you are traveling from the airport to Arosa and are not planning to go anywhere else or take any other transportation, with this card you will effectively pay 71 francs per way. This card is only valid for trips to and from the airport or boarder and no (long) stops allowed. Technically if you will travel one more day, the Swiss travel pass mentioned above will probably be cheaper.

Make sure to order your pass a few weeks before leaving, it takes about 1-3 weeks for the pass to arrive. But you can always buy it in the Airport, though you might have to wait in line and also if you want to buy the Youth pass (for 25 y/o or younger) they might ask you for proof...

There is also a family pass if you travel with a large family, I am not familiar with that.


Fast Baggage
There is a service via SBB, They deliver your luggage for you!! For example you are traveling from ZRH to Arosa, you don't want to be busy Shlepping around your luggage, You can check in your luggage in the airport and they (SBB) will deliver it to the train station in Arosa. This service is available "from and to" most train stations in Switzerland. You can ask about the Fast Baggage by any train station or read here or here

You can even buy a tag that you put on the luggage before checking in your luggage in any airport (i.e. JFK) and Rail Europe will take your luggage from the airplane in Switzerland and deliver it either to your hotel or to the train station in the city you're going to.  Read about Flight Luggage Here




PS. When doing research and getting to a website in German, just add /en (after .ch) to translate to English.
And Hey, Don't forget to write a TR ;)

Sample Itinerary for 9 hour stopover on Swiss flight from TLV to U.S. that lands at 810 and takes off around 5
Copied from @cholent:
Here it is: landed in zrh, crazy line for entering country but moved pretty quickly, about half an hour. Picked up sim in the airport. Rented car through Priceline from europecar. Drove to Titlis, stunning scenery along drive. Missed a turnoff because I couldn't get Waze to talk and I was trying to do some stuff online while we were driving, added half an hour to get there, but the stunning scenery made it worthwhile. Got there, parked, you pay at the entrance if you're going to park for more than an hour. Paid, took the cable car. Got off at there halfway station by mistake, gorgeous lake. Went back on and back up to the top. It was somewhat cloudy which was a pity. Suspension bridge was fun but no view because of the clouds. Took the ice flyer to the other peak, then went sledding down the hill, lots of fun. No tubing because there wasn't enough snow. We didn't have enough time for the ice cave because of the extra time driving there and we weren't sure where it was anyway. Made some new Israeli friends and took the cable car down with them. Got back to the airport, returning the car took less than five minutes, getting through the airport took a little longer so we didn't have time for showers at the lounge. It was amazing all around, I would definitely recommend

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2740 on: July 17, 2023, 05:07:20 AM »
We're planning on staying in Davos for th week because there is a lot of kosher food there, deciding on staying there for shabbos in the kosher program or moving to arosa or st moritz, any one ever been to Levin in Arosa or tours plus in st moritz? Is it worth moving to another location to see a different area?
I think St Moritz Area is worth seeing Its also closer from Davos than Arosa

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2741 on: July 17, 2023, 05:33:25 AM »
https://www.habadgeneve.ch/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/624327/jewish/Kosher-Food.htm

I have seen this. Anyone with first hand info? I have had experiences where one store is vastly better than the other. I once arrived to a so called 'store' that had only out of date produce and was run out of a dank basement

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2742 on: July 18, 2023, 12:39:27 PM »
Anyone have a good driver for day trips? Ex: zrh- Zermatt/ Lucerne etc

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2743 on: July 20, 2023, 12:44:28 PM »
If you or someone you know is booking this hotel in Saas-Fe between Aug 4-7 (or longer!) please let me know. It makes a very large difference to me.

https://www.lagorge.ch/

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2744 on: July 20, 2023, 12:59:57 PM »
I have seen this. Anyone with first hand info? I have had experiences where one store is vastly better than the other. I once arrived to a so called 'store' that had only out of date produce and was run out of a dank basement
anyone have any info? Any ppl know anyone in Geneva

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2745 on: July 25, 2023, 04:07:29 PM »
If you or someone you know is booking this hotel in Saas-Fe between Aug 4-7 (or longer!) please let me know. It makes a very large difference to me.

https://www.lagorge.ch/
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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2746 on: July 27, 2023, 11:00:35 AM »
If you or someone you know is booking this hotel in Saas-Fe between Aug 4-7 (or longer!) please let me know. It makes a very large difference to me.

https://www.lagorge.ch/

I am actually looking to be in this area (never heard of that hotel but will look into it), in mid August. Is there being a minyan and kosher food offerings there?

I came to this thread to look for info on recent stays at Park Hyatt Zurich but don't see anything since about 5 years ago.

On a different note, is there a place in Zurich or Geneva where we can buy shabbos food for takeout?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2747 on: July 27, 2023, 01:05:19 PM »
Maybe it would be a good idea if we can publicize here the locations were there will be minyanim over the next few weeks.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2748 on: July 27, 2023, 02:16:27 PM »
Maybe it would be a good idea if we can publicize here the locations were there will be minyanim over the next few weeks.

Bettmeralp:         31.07. - 14.08    Minjan                             079 429 08 03
Champfer:           3.08. -   10.08.   (3 men)                          00 44 791 769 3310
Churwalden:        31.07. - 10.08.   (3men)                           00 32 486 99 6668  jogold@gmail.com
Crans Montana:   31.07. - 9.08.      looking for Minjan            00 44 777 119 4131
Davos:                Till end August    Beis Medrash Schiabach   +41 79 664 80 10
Flims:                   7.08 - 20.08.    (5 men)                           miri126glad@gmail.com
Grächen               30.07. - 15.08.    looking for Minjan            076 537 71 83
Riederalp:                                     Minjan ?                          ym11landau@gmail.com
Samedan/Bever    Schabbes 12.08.  Minjan ?                          P.Benedict  076 385 58 19
Samnaun:                                     Minjan?                           078 249 84 94
Scuol:                  30.07. - 9.08.      Minjan ?                          00 972 546 777 391
St. Moritz:             till 20.08.           Minjan.                            Via Ludains 5 (Eisenbahn)
LaTzoumaz:           31.07. -13.08.    Minjan?                            078 689 16 87 00 44 776 205 6894
Veysonnnaz:          31.07. - 14.08.   (3 men)                            076 323 46 13
Wengen:                6.08.- 10.08.     Minjan ?                            00 972 53 31 70130
Zermatt:               31.08.- 9.08.                                             00 972 527 19 8330
Champery Wallis:     7.08. - 17.08.     (2 men)                          0044 796 096 2028
Saas Fee:              30.07. -  6.08.      (4 men)                           041 764 703 413
Ftan:                     31.07. - 10.08      (3 men)                           041 775 048 681
La Punt Chamues:  31.07. - 13.08.     (9 men)                           041 763 659 997
Adelboden:            31.07. - 17.08.     (10 men+)                       00 44 750 554 1755
Bever:                    7.08. - 16.08.      (2 men)                           00 32 477 3777 46
Celerina:               31.07. - 10.08.      (4 men)                           00 44 798 923 33 93
   

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2749 on: July 27, 2023, 02:21:05 PM »
Who made this list?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2750 on: July 27, 2023, 02:36:02 PM »

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2751 on: July 28, 2023, 04:32:12 AM »
wow yasher koach
thanks!

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2752 on: July 28, 2023, 05:59:36 AM »
anyone have any info? Any ppl know anyone in Geneva
from that list, only espace cacher still exists. Now called hyper cacher. Address is correct. Feel free to reach out for more info

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2753 on: July 28, 2023, 06:00:57 AM »
I have seen this. Anyone with first hand info? I have had experiences where one store is vastly better than the other. I once arrived to a so called 'store' that had only out of date produce and was run out of a dank basement
for produce go to a local grocery store and get fresh.

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2754 on: July 30, 2023, 10:36:52 AM »
Hi,
I'm planning a week trip to Switzerland.
Any recommendations of areas to stay in? I see a lot of different options in the alps. Which one is recommended?
Would you recommend staying in one place or more then 1 area?
Any recommendations of places I must visit?
If anyone has a good itinerary I would love to see
Thanks

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2755 on: July 30, 2023, 05:55:47 PM »
Hi,
I'm planning a week trip to Switzerland.
Any recommendations of areas to stay in? I see a lot of different options in the alps. Which one is recommended?
Would you recommend staying in one place or more then 1 area?
Any recommendations of places I must visit?
If anyone has a good itinerary I would love to see
Thanks
In the summer St Moritz is definitely the gold standard. In the winter there is also Gstaad and Zermatt.

Here is a good idea of activities in the area https://badruttspalace.com/st-moritz-events-activities-summer/#summer
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2756 on: July 31, 2023, 11:22:20 AM »

Bettmeralp:         31.07. - 14.08    Minjan                             079 429 08 03
Champfer:           3.08. -   10.08.   (3 men)                          00 44 791 769 3310
Churwalden:        31.07. - 10.08.   (3men)                           00 32 486 99 6668  jogold@gmail.com
Crans Montana:   31.07. - 9.08.      looking for Minjan            00 44 777 119 4131
Davos:                Till end August    Beis Medrash Schiabach   +41 79 664 80 10
Flims:                   7.08 - 20.08.    (5 men)                           miri126glad@gmail.com
Grächen               30.07. - 15.08.    looking for Minjan            076 537 71 83
Riederalp:                                     Minjan ?                          ym11landau@gmail.com
Samedan/Bever    Schabbes 12.08.  Minjan ?                          P.Benedict  076 385 58 19
Samnaun:                                     Minjan?                           078 249 84 94
Scuol:                  30.07. - 9.08.      Minjan ?                          00 972 546 777 391
St. Moritz:             till 20.08.           Minjan.                            Via Ludains 5 (Eisenbahn)
LaTzoumaz:           31.07. -13.08.    Minjan?                            078 689 16 87 00 44 776 205 6894
Veysonnnaz:          31.07. - 14.08.   (3 men)                            076 323 46 13
Wengen:                6.08.- 10.08.     Minjan ?                            00 972 53 31 70130
Zermatt:               31.08.- 9.08.                                             00 972 527 19 8330
Champery Wallis:     7.08. - 17.08.     (2 men)                          0044 796 096 2028
Saas Fee:              30.07. -  6.08.      (4 men)                           041 764 703 413
Ftan:                     31.07. - 10.08      (3 men)                           041 775 048 681
La Punt Chamues:  31.07. - 13.08.     (9 men)                           041 763 659 997
Adelboden:            31.07. - 17.08.     (10 men+)                       00 44 750 554 1755
Bever:                    7.08. - 16.08.      (2 men)                           00 32 477 3777 46
Celerina:               31.07. - 10.08.      (4 men)                           00 44 798 923 33 93
 

How often is this list updated and where can I see it? The link to the Jewish weekly magazine site doesn't have a page with this info. Thanks

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2757 on: July 31, 2023, 01:27:02 PM »
Is it possible to rent a car in the St Moritz area & return in ZRH airport same day, trains are really expensive

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2758 on: July 31, 2023, 01:42:24 PM »
Any recommendations of places I must visit?
If anyone has a good itinerary I would love to see
We are coming with large family (old and young) end of august staying in engelberg and here are our current plans/notes from reviews we saw (WOULD LOVE COMMENTS/SUGGESTIONS):

Things to do in Switzerland:
-Mount Titlis / Pilatus
-glacier cave
-kayaking on lake
-alpine slide!!
-explore Lucerne
-explore Engelberg
-spa :)
-hike
-train
-Brunni: A 15 min walk from Engelberg train station and it was wonderful. Large gondola with 1 stop and you were at Ristis where there is a adventure playground and toboggan for the kids. Restaurant there with facilities. Some great views of titlis mountain and others. Short 5 min walk to a chair lift up to Gleitschirmstartplatz Brunni where there was a hotel, restaurant and pond. This pond had a trail around it you could walk bare foot, different textures and temperatures. Very sensory! My kids and I went around twice!  New for 2023: wooden ball path
-ebike/trotti bike
-Mt Pilatus golden round trip: gondola, cable car, cogway railway, boat ride
-four lakes hike
-Lindt chocolate factory
-rent a speedboat on lake lucerne

Monday: drive down, stop at Babi's bagels/ma'adan bakery ZUR.  Landart trail (funicular up!)?  Carriage ride?
T: Brunni! Or explore Engelberg, Robinson Playground
W: Mt. Titlus (ice flyer, glacier cave, cliff walk, snow tubing), Trubsee (stay here with baby? or hire babysitter?)
Th: Lucerne: transport museum: chocolate adventure, experience switzerland planetarium show
F: Interlaken/Grindenwald?
Pilatus? Brunni?  Stoos ridge hike just us?

Do 1, 2, or 3 mountains?  Which ones?  Possible with baby?

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Re: Switzerland Master Thread
« Reply #2759 on: July 31, 2023, 02:18:57 PM »
How often is this list updated and where can I see it? The link to the Jewish weekly magazine site doesn't have a page with this info. Thanks

It does, just you would need a yearly subscription to get a login to access it as a PDF download. Starts at CHF 180 a year, or buy a single issue at the kosher supermarket in Zürich. It's published every Thursday night.