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Author Topic: Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread  (Read 1226716 times)

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6680 on: November 20, 2023, 05:28:05 PM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6681 on: November 20, 2023, 05:31:06 PM »
https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1726699253307719959

I've said it before (in other words): the Dems are idiots for not putting Kirby at the top of their ticket. I actually think he has a good shot if he's on the ticket.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6682 on: November 20, 2023, 05:42:34 PM »
I've said it before (in other words): the Dems are idiots for not putting Kirby at the top of their ticket. I actually think he has a good shot if he's on the ticket.
What percent of the Dems still think this way ?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6687 on: November 21, 2023, 01:04:39 AM »
What are these nets that so many IDF troops wear on their helmets?


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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6689 on: November 21, 2023, 01:22:00 AM »
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6692 on: November 21, 2023, 09:50:03 AM »
The Prime Minister's Office says that "in light of the developments regarding the release of our hostages" the war cabinet will convene at 18:00, the security cabinet at 19:00, and the government at 20:00.

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6693 on: November 21, 2023, 09:53:40 AM »
The Prime Minister's Office says that "in light of the developments regarding the release of our hostages" the war cabinet will convene at 18:00, the security cabinet at 19:00, and the government at 20:00.

Good luck restarting this war and destroying Hamas after a 5 day pause (likely extended with a trickle of hostage releases).
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6695 on: November 21, 2023, 10:03:29 AM »
Good luck restarting this war and destroying Hamas after a 5 day pause (likely extended with a trickle of hostage releases).

Shame on Israel for letting Hamas control the narrative, and shame on Netanyahu for thinking he’ll salvage his legacy with this deal.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6696 on: November 21, 2023, 10:08:13 AM »
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1726958872789700612
It took Hamas 4-6 hours to take 240 hostages. And this was under threat of getting shot at by the Israeli army.

Can someone explain to me why it takes 4-6 days to release 25% of them (when Israel will be aiding them)?

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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6697 on: November 21, 2023, 10:08:43 AM »
Shame on Israel for letting Hamas control the narrative, and shame on Netanyahu for thinking he’ll salvage his legacy with this deal.

This deal might just be lumped together with the other huge stain on his legacy called the "Shalit Deal". In both cases he buckled to the cynical pressure put on him by his haters who used kidnapped people for demonstrations.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6698 on: November 21, 2023, 10:15:26 AM »
It took Hamas 4-6 hours to take 240 hostages. And this was under threat of getting shot at by the Israeli army.

Can someone explain to me why it takes 4-6 days to release 25% of them (when Israel will be aiding them)?

Israel has been telling them they have all the leverage. As soon as Israel admitted they’ll come to the table for a discussion on 50 hostages, Hamas has been pushing the envelope on what they can get in exchange for that.
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Re: ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION
« Reply #6699 on: November 21, 2023, 10:31:35 AM »
Good luck restarting this war and destroying Hamas after a 5 day pause (likely extended with a trickle of hostage releases).
Going to be very difficult. Decades of bad policy (Shalit deal being the most glaring one) has led to this.  [Gitin 45a.] Although without the release of all hostages, they will restart.