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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #301 on: November 09, 2023, 11:16:05 PM »
Fascinating indeed! Belongs here.
I read #9 it was pretty bad.

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #302 on: November 10, 2023, 12:30:03 AM »
Fascinating indeed! Belongs here.
This guy is off on so many levels. Ugh.

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #303 on: November 10, 2023, 02:24:50 AM »
Palestinian disasters will appear again.
Thank you @EliJelly and @AsherO . Was worth the read and I read it carefully. The writer left out only a mention that the Muslim Arabs in Israel did not identify as Palestinian for about two decades after IL was founded. Instead, they derisively called Jews "Palestinians" and made fun of the fake Palestine name. They were all saying, "Palestine is really part of Syria!" or "...part of Jordan!" depending on their political association.
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #304 on: November 10, 2023, 10:58:15 AM »
Fascinating indeed! Belongs here.

#9 doesn’t really bring anything new to the table and has a bunch of impossible suggestions that still don’t account for many unaddressed issues. The guy writes well but it’s way too verbose.
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #307 on: November 13, 2023, 08:49:06 PM »
@CountValentine remember that Israel was always the "little Satan" while the US is "the big Satan"

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #308 on: November 19, 2023, 03:09:45 AM »

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #309 on: November 19, 2023, 10:57:16 AM »
Posting this here as I think this is very much at the root of the issues. The tendency to make up outrageous lies and believe their own lies and propaganda has been a common thread for more than a century.

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #311 on: November 19, 2023, 08:19:02 PM »
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #312 on: November 20, 2023, 05:14:50 AM »
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Did you know? The PLO was founded before the Palestinian people even existed? That the founders of the PLO declared that they are NOT Palestinian (only the accursed Jews are), but rather Jordanian, Egyptian or Syrian (depending on where they were in IL), and that they wanted to liberate Palestine and annex it to their favored country?
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #313 on: November 20, 2023, 10:33:05 PM »
Theoretically, if some nation/country could trace themselves back to one of the 7 nations living in Israel/Canaan before the Jews got there for the first time after traveling through the desert, and if you take religion out of the equation and only look at it historically, would they have a good argument/claim to the land? I get it, I'm just asking theoretically.

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #314 on: November 20, 2023, 10:37:39 PM »
Theoretically, if some nation/country could trace themselves back to one of the 7 nations living in Israel/Canaan before the Jews got there for the first time after traveling through the desert, and if you take religion out of the equation and only look at it historically, would they have a good argument/claim to the land? I get it, I'm just asking theoretically.

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #315 on: November 20, 2023, 10:51:00 PM »
Theoretically, if some nation/country could trace themselves back to one of the 7 nations living in Israel/Canaan before the Jews got there for the first time after traveling through the desert, and if you take religion out of the equation and only look at it historically, would they have a good argument/claim to the land? I get it, I'm just asking theoretically.

Rashi says that Noach gave over that part of the land to Shem and Canaan was taking it from them in the times of Avraham Avinu.
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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #316 on: November 20, 2023, 10:58:01 PM »
Rashi says that Noach gave over that part of the land to Shem and Canaan was taking it from them in the times of Avraham Avinu.
So then why does the first Rashi in the Torah feel the need to say what he says?

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #317 on: November 20, 2023, 11:20:08 PM »
So then why does the first Rashi in the Torah feel the need to say what he says?
Because people were anti semites and truth deniers back then already?

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #318 on: November 21, 2023, 12:01:17 AM »
So then why does the first Rashi in the Torah feel the need to say what he says?
See sifsei chachamim for several answers. One of them is that there were other descendants of Shem who could lay claim.

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Re: Starting Point Of Israel/Palestine Conflict?
« Reply #319 on: November 26, 2023, 01:24:21 PM »


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