Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[yfr bachur]

Wow. So much to catch up on.
Maybe on chol hamoed

Busy season? 

Have a great YT!!

[Moshe Green]

... I would buy stock for the whole year because I don't eat KF or MK (as guidance I received, and thou shalt do as thou Rabbi says).
...

KF has cleaned up their act recently. Ask again about them.

[yfr bachur]

KF has cleaned up their act recently. Ask again about them.

You mean getting a respected charedi rav (RSFZ) to leave his kehila to head your ops changes your opps for the better....?!
shocking! 

[moko]

You mean getting a respected charedi rav (RSFZ) to leave his kehila to head your ops changes your opps for the better....?!
shocking! 

new kashrus admin. Very good guy. Reliable and honest. He'll tell me exactly where something stands when I ask.

[moko]

KLP Heinz ketchup has arrived. It is normally MK when not KFP. Last year it was KF-Kitnios. This year it has KF and is not kitnios, plus a hechsher I've never seen before - some kind of Kehillos (not the EY Kehillos). Oddly, the box it comes in has Tartikov (Rav Babad) but there is no such indication anywhere on the bottles themselves.
This should indicate that the ketchup is indeed certified under Tartikov. I would buy stock for the whole year because I don't eat KF or MK (as guidance I received, and thou shalt do as thou Rabbi says).
https://kosherquest.org/from-the-kib-heinz-tomato-ketchup-for-pesach/
But this is from last year. I wonder if that is what we are getting this year?

production is set up very lechatchila...personal friend of mine, kashrus expert for various agencies set it up.
There's a story why it has those specific hashgachos.

[mevinyavin]

The kitniyos issue with Heinz was 2022. Last year (2023) it was non-kitniyos (under KF and Tartikov). And for the rest of the year, Heinz in the US is OU if you can get that.

Yes, I noted that. This and the short exp. dates on Pesach products indicates EY often sells product from the US that was made for the previous Pesach.

KF has cleaned up their act recently. Ask again about them.

Though that would depend on when the product is from. 

[chessman1]

Yes, I noted that. This and the short exp. dates on Pesach products indicates EY often sells product from the US that was made for the previous Pesach.
Though that would depend on when the product is from. 

It wasn't kitniyos last year or in 2021. There was a one year production issue in 2022.

Also, in 2021, the version I got in the US had a label for the Israeli market, so I doubt that they're getting the product a year later.

[HudZ]

It wasn't kitniyos last year or in 2021. There was a one year production issue in 2022.

Also, in 2021, the version I got in the US had a label for the Israeli market, so I doubt that they're getting the product a year later.

The one I bought this year had a label for Israeli market and had Tartikov. I don't remember previous years... Your best bet for those you bought in Israel is to call Tartikov and ask them...

[chessman1]

The one I bought this year had a label for Israeli market and had Tartikov. I don't remember previous years... Your best bet for those you bought in Israel is to call Tartikov and ask them...

I'm in the US. The label has KF and Tartikov and is a US label.

[HudZ]

I'm in the US. The label has KF and Tartikov and is a US label.

Just curious. Where did you buy it?

[jye]

Which clearly illustrates that the idea that nobody knew about this worm and no one saw them in fish 40 years ago is clearly incorrect

You may have to find cans going back another 20 years or so.

[TheAsh]

What if they don't clean the machine properly between shifts?

It's batul.

Still not chametz.

These.machines run nonstop.

[rbs-g1.5]

You mean getting a respected charedi rav (RSFZ) to leave his kehila to head your ops changes your opps for the better....?!
shocking! 

agav they had a respected charedi rav before too...

[aygart]

You may have to find cans going back another 20 years or so.

No need. I can show you reports from way before then from many different areas.

[chessman1]

Just curious. Where did you buy it?

Not in the NY area.

[yfr bachur]

agav they had a respected charedi rav before too...

True.

my point being that handing over the keys to a new boss leads to changes (usually) for the better.

[moko]

agav they had a respected charedi rav before too...

they also have a new kashrus admin. A few years ago

[av83]

I remember hearing that the OU and many other Hashgachos consider Olive Oil to be a category 1 item and therefore do not require any supervision or specail handling. So even when it bears a Hashgacha there was no actual supervision since there isnt any needed. Hoever there are those that feel that there is room and possibility of Kashrus problems with olive oil and therefore olive oil with Hashgacha is not necesarily reliable. Does this sound familiar or does anyone know anything more about this?

[aygart]

I remember hearing that the OU and many other Hashgachos consider Olive Oil to be a category 1 item and therefore do not require any supervision or specail handling. So even when it bears a Hashgacha there was no actual supervision since there isnt any needed. Hoever there are those that feel that there is room and possibility of Kashrus problems with olive oil and therefore olive oil with Hashgacha is not necesarily reliable. Does this sound familiar or does anyone know anything more about this?

From Yudel Shain?

[av83]

From Yudel Shain?

Actually. no.