Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[Moshe Green]

Don't be ridiculous.  No rabbanut matza is chometz. It's not risen.

You can duke it out with my rav 

[TheAsh]

You can duke it out with my rav 

I'm down.

The gemara is clear they baked matza at home. No way any industrial machine matza is chometz.

[yitzgar]

I'm down.

The gemara is clear they baked matza at home. No way any industrial machine matza is chometz.

What if they don't clean the machine properly between shifts?

[TheAsh]

An old post on LKO from 1994!

This is the org that certifies Dunkin Donuts here.
http://www.ottmall.com/mj_ht_arch/v16/mj_v16i04.html#CW

>Subject: Kashrut of Herbalife
>
>In preparation for becoming a sales person of Herbalife here in Israel,
>my daughter was given background information, including a letter from
>Lakewood Kashrus Organization which certifies that products sold by
>Herbalife Israel Ltd. are kosher and pareve.  I have two questions:
>
>1. Can anyone provide information about this certifying organization?
>
>2. One of the products listed in the letter as kosher-pareve is "Drink
>mix fortified with vitamins and minerals in the chocolate, strawberry
>and vanilla flavor".  This contains calcium caseinate and sweet dairy
>whey in both the English and Hebrew lists of ingredients.  Is the pareve
>certification incorrect, or is the ingredients list incorrect?
>
>Sherman Marcus
>
The Lakewood Kashrus Organization was started by Rav Yitzchok Abadi.
Rav Yitzchok, who now lives in Har HaNof, is the rav hamachshir
(certifying authority).  Rabbi Yosef Tesler is the administrator.

I asked Rabbi Tesler about the ingredients, and he said that the product
is pareve.  The reason is that the whey and caseinate are pogum
(foul tasting), and are therefore classified as not fit to eat.  Thus
the product does not become dairy, even though those ingredients are
derived from dairy sources.
>
Sorry for the lateness of this response, but I kept forgetting
to call him.  Rabbi Tesler does not have net access, and I don't
read mail lists in anything near real time, so I cannot undertake
to pass on any further discussion that develops from this.

[Moshe Green]

What if they don't clean the machine properly between shifts?

That could be one issue.
(I'm no expert) but other issues i thought of was the heat making the dough machmitz quicker,
not checking to make sure that the workers don't bring other stuff in,
not making sure the flour was shemura the whole time (and it became wet),
and not being makpid on 18 minutes (just continually doing run after run).

https://www.chabad.org/holidays/passover/pesach_cdo/aid/5484651/jewish/Can-We-Bake-Our-Own-Matzah.htm

[rbs-g1.5]

What if they don't clean the machine properly between shifts?

[mevinyavin]

KLP Heinz ketchup has arrived. It is normally MK when not KFP. Last year it was KF-Kitnios. This year it has KF and is not kitnios, plus a hechsher I've never seen before - some kind of Kehillos (not the EY Kehillos). Oddly, the box it comes in has Tartikov (Rav Babad) but there is no such indication anywhere on the bottles themselves.
This should indicate that the ketchup is indeed certified under Tartikov. I would buy stock for the whole year because I don't eat KF or MK (as guidance I received, and thou shalt do as thou Rabbi says).
https://kosherquest.org/from-the-kib-heinz-tomato-ketchup-for-pesach/
But this is from last year. I wonder if that is what we are getting this year?

[HudZ]

KLP Heinz ketchup has arrived. It is normally MK when not KFP. Last year it was KF-Kitnios. This year it has KF and is not kitnios, plus a hechsher I've never seen before - some kind of Kehillos (not the EY Kehillos). Oddly, the box it comes in has Tartikov (Rav Babad) but there is no such indication anywhere on the bottles themselves.
This should indicate that the ketchup is indeed certified under Tartikov. I would buy stock for the whole year because I don't eat KF or MK (as guidance I received, and thou shalt do as thou Rabbi says).
https://kosherquest.org/from-the-kib-heinz-tomato-ketchup-for-pesach/
But this is from last year. I wonder if that is what we are getting this year?

Is it fancy?

I've seen the Heinz Ketchup Kosher L'Pesach, it was an Israeli version. And I'm almost positive it had Tartikov on the bottle, or maybe a sticker on the bottle. (Seen At Bingo Brooklyn)

[yitzgar]

The one sold in the US has tartikov on the bottle

[jye]

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ece3.11043

Fascinating study. Scientists opened sealed cans of canned salmon, some going back to the 1970s and counted Anisakis worms. Most cans had. One can contained 115 worms! These were all from the original salmon, not from decay. Bon apetite.

[imayid2]

Bon apetite.

Send them his way

איבלע לי ואנא איכול

[aygart]

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ece3.11043

Fascinating study. Scientists opened sealed cans of canned salmon, some going back to the 1970s and counted Anisakis worms. Most cans had. One can contained 115 worms! These were all from the original salmon, not from decay. Bon apetite.

There goes the argument some made that this onluy started to be so prevalent recently.

[aygart]

Send them his way

Or רבינא take your pick.

[TheAsh]

KLP Heinz ketchup has arrived. It is normally MK when not KFP. Last year it was KF-Kitnios. This year it has KF and is not kitnios, plus a hechsher I've never seen before - some kind of Kehillos (not the EY Kehillos). Oddly, the box it comes in has Tartikov (Rav Babad) but there is no such indication anywhere on the bottles themselves.
This should indicate that the ketchup is indeed certified under Tartikov. I would buy stock for the whole year because I don't eat KF or MK (as guidance I received, and thou shalt do as thou Rabbi says).
https://kosherquest.org/from-the-kib-heinz-tomato-ketchup-for-pesach/
But this is from last year. I wonder if that is what we are getting this year?

Is tatikov authorized by the rabbanut? If jot, that might be why it's not on the Israeli bottle.

[jye]

There goes the argument some made that this onluy started to be so prevalent recently.

The study did find anisakis growing in prevalence in 2 of the salmon species but stable in the other 2 tested.

[chessman1]

KLP Heinz ketchup has arrived. It is normally MK when not KFP. Last year it was KF-Kitnios. This year it has KF and is not kitnios, plus a hechsher I've never seen before - some kind of Kehillos (not the EY Kehillos). Oddly, the box it comes in has Tartikov (Rav Babad) but there is no such indication anywhere on the bottles themselves.
This should indicate that the ketchup is indeed certified under Tartikov. I would buy stock for the whole year because I don't eat KF or MK (as guidance I received, and thou shalt do as thou Rabbi says).
https://kosherquest.org/from-the-kib-heinz-tomato-ketchup-for-pesach/
But this is from last year. I wonder if that is what we are getting this year?

The kitniyos issue with Heinz was 2022. Last year (2023) it was non-kitniyos (under KF and Tartikov). And for the rest of the year, Heinz in the US is OU if you can get that.

[aygart]

The study did find anisakis growing in prevalence in 2 of the salmon species but stable in the other 2 tested.

Higher prevalence. Yes not prevalent to being prevalent no

[moko]

Wow. So much to catch up on.
Maybe on chol hamoed

[jye]

Higher prevalence. Yes not prevalent to being prevalent no

Correct. There was plenty of anisakis infesting the salmon in the 1970’s as per the study.

[aygart]

Correct. There was plenty of anisakis infesting the salmon in the 1970’s as per the study.

Which clearly illustrates that the idea that nobody knew about this worm and no one saw them in fish 40 years ago is clearly incorrect