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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5060 on: June 12, 2023, 05:07:07 PM »
This is now private because of the Reddit blackout. It was just an update about the Hardbody scam

What do you mean by Reddit blackout?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5065 on: June 29, 2023, 08:32:35 PM »
Anyone know how to get intuch with buyinggroup.com?????
They say they sent me a echeck, I never received it.

Seems like their support people are in India or Pakistan.

“Upon checking Mr. Joseph “” you know what I mean.

Not getting a real response

Thanks

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5066 on: June 29, 2023, 09:42:09 PM »
Anyone know how to get intuch with buyinggroup.com?????
They say they sent me a echeck, I never received it.

Seems like their support people are in India or Pakistan.

“Upon checking Mr. Joseph “” you know what I mean.

Not getting a real response

Thanks
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5067 on: June 29, 2023, 10:54:30 PM »
Anyone know how to get intuch with buyinggroup.com?????
They say they sent me a echeck, I never received it.

Seems like their support people are in India or Pakistan.

“Upon checking Mr. Joseph “” you know what I mean.

Not getting a real response

Thanks
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5068 on: June 29, 2023, 11:24:17 PM »
Does it show up on the e-check page?

https://buyinggroup.com/mobile-check

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5070 on: July 02, 2023, 02:14:12 PM »
Does it show up on the e-check page?

https://buyinggroup.com/mobile-check
It Says Processed 06/27/2023 However I never received anything from them, of course I contacted them, getting the standard Philipino response (UPON CHECKING MR JOSEPH ETC.)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5071 on: July 02, 2023, 02:17:28 PM »
Not sure what you mean by 'received', they don't email the checks, you're supposed to print/download them from the echecks page.

Or just ask them to reissue the check, they did it for me with no issues.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5072 on: July 05, 2023, 02:49:26 PM »
Why did commissions come back?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5073 on: July 05, 2023, 04:51:55 PM »
Why did commissions come back?
Which group? What kind of deals?

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« Reply #5074 on: July 05, 2023, 04:54:05 PM »
Why did commissions come back?
Harder to get Amazon devices.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5075 on: July 05, 2023, 08:08:19 PM »
Which group? What kind of deals?
Think all pretty much. Nothing major, but still something. Amazon devices.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5076 on: July 07, 2023, 01:19:37 PM »
Just got this email. This happen to anyone else? Any recourse? No idea what I did wrong.

Hello, We have removed your organization from Amazon Business as we have determined that your usage of Amazon Business does not fit with the services we provide. Your business user account has been converted to a personal Amazon.com account. You can still use this account as a consumer, but you will no longer be able to access Amazon Business benefits. You can view our Amazon Business Accounts Terms and Conditions here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=201613180 All other user accounts related to yours have also been converted to personal accounts. If you attempt to open a new Amazon Business account, your registration will be blocked or the account will be closed. Your current open orders will be fulfilled. Any digital content you purchased with this user account will still be available in your library, unless that content was revoked because of this violation. To access the content, click the “Manage Your Content and Devices” link on the "Your Account" menu on Amazon.com (www.amazon.com/manageyourcontentanddevices). Our Customer Service and Sales teams can only confirm that we sent this message and help you with technical issues. They cannot reverse this decision or share more details on this matter. Sincerely, Account Specialist Amazon Business

Were you able get your business account restored?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5077 on: July 07, 2023, 07:09:30 PM »
Any good way to hit a SUB ? i really dont want to get backin to buying groups. probably can do 4k over 3 months in day to day spending, any good strategies to spend another 4k? thanks

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« Reply #5078 on: July 07, 2023, 07:14:40 PM »
Any good way to hit a SUB ?
Bh my wife always helps me with that ;D

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5079 on: July 08, 2023, 11:41:53 PM »

Any good way to hit a SUB ? i really dont want to get backin to buying groups. probably can do 4k over 3 months in day to day spending, any good strategies to spend another 4k? thanks
1)Gas and electric bills.  Small fee for large payment.  Pay the maximum they allow.
2)Phone bill - pay ahead.  Any other recurring expenses that allow credit card payments.  (T-Mobile is switching to debit and bank payments only (no cc) for thier autopay discount. Prepay now for 2 few months.)
3)Pay your parents electric and gas bill.  Get the money from them when the bill is due.  Your friends with large  houses and / or large families might do you the favor also.  But only those you trust to get the money from them!

4)Pay ahead at  your grocer.
5)Give tzedoko.
6)Ask your parents or inlaws if they have any expenses coming up that can be paid by cc.
Good luck!
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