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BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5480 on: January 28, 2024, 05:02:14 PM »
we need a dislike button
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We have a very easy way to shut him down, just make a pact not to sell him, or anyone who is buying on a mass level

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5481 on: January 29, 2024, 10:54:49 PM »
We have a very easy way to shut him down, just make a pact not to sell him, or anyone who is buying on a mass level
you misunderstood me, I dislike the person who posted that they disliked what this person was doing. I am 100 percent fine with it especially when he is still cheaper than the official price. It is exactly the same as every other business except here you know how much he is making so it bothers you.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5482 on: January 29, 2024, 11:56:10 PM »
everyone is backing out of the apple vison pro deals  :(

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5483 on: January 30, 2024, 08:09:14 AM »
Can you post the notice that they sent out?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5484 on: February 02, 2024, 01:43:48 PM »
Has anybody had any luck at getting best buy orders to buying groups that they care to share?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5485 on: February 03, 2024, 09:30:13 PM »
PSA: DO NOT BUY FOR USA BUYING GROUP!!

I recently had a package from Amazon go missing (worth almost $600) and they told me that their policy is that they do not reimburse for missing packages and to reach out to Amazon, however Amazon has their Delaware address flagged as a freight forwarder and does not refund for any missing package that goes there. The same thing just happened to another close friend of mine but for a package with MacBooks worth almost $3,000. USA absolutely refuses to help in any way pretty much all but saying "you are own your own, go figure this out". After speaking to a few more people this seems to be happening to a A LOT of people these days and I even heard of a story where someone lost major, major money. USA is not being transparent with their buyers and telling them that there is big risk involved these days with ordering to their Delaware warehouse.

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD to anyone you know that buys for USA.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5486 on: February 03, 2024, 09:49:23 PM »


PSA: ...this seems to be happening to a A LOT of people these days and I even heard of a story where someone lost major, major money.

This is literally the purpose of this thread.

And it's been mentioned above quite a few times.


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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5487 on: February 03, 2024, 10:00:21 PM »
PSA: DO NOT BUY FOR USA BUYING GROUP!!

I recently had a package from Amazon go missing (worth almost $600) and they told me that their policy is that they do not reimburse for missing packages and to reach out to Amazon, however Amazon has their Delaware address flagged as a freight forwarder and does not refund for any missing package that goes there. The same thing just happened to another close friend of mine but for a package with MacBooks worth almost $3,000. USA absolutely refuses to help in any way pretty much all but saying "you are own your own, go figure this out". After speaking to a few more people this seems to be happening to a A LOT of people these days and I even heard of a story where someone lost major, major money. USA is not being transparent with their buyers and telling them that there is big risk involved these days with ordering to their Delaware warehouse.

PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD to anyone you know that buys for USA.

what did tracking show?

i have my own story with CloseoutNJ - tracking shows delivered, but they claim never received so they not paying me. Of course, since it says delivered - amazon is not replacing/refunding.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5488 on: February 03, 2024, 10:07:40 PM »
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5489 on: February 03, 2024, 10:33:25 PM »
what did tracking show?

i have my own story with CloseoutNJ - tracking shows delivered, but they claim never received so they not paying me. Of course, since it says delivered - amazon is not replacing/refunding.
Where did you get delivered to lakewood or DE?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5490 on: February 03, 2024, 10:41:14 PM »

This is literally the purpose of this thread.

And it's been mentioned above quite a few times.

Love the posts addressing the symptoms. Every time someone gets screwed, all caps posts with exclamation marks warning about the evils of *that* group, as opposed to the reliability of all the others. Until the next post, where someone else is the worst and everyone else is reliable again.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5491 on: February 04, 2024, 09:43:48 AM »
We have a very easy way to shut him down, just make a pact not to sell him, or anyone who is buying on a mass level
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5492 on: February 04, 2024, 10:15:51 AM »
Love the posts addressing the symptoms. Every time someone gets screwed, all caps posts with exclamation marks warning about the evils of *that* group, as opposed to the reliability of all the others. Until the next post, where someone else is the worst and everyone else is reliable again.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5493 on: February 04, 2024, 10:51:03 AM »
From my understanding USA has been dealing with a theft problem for the past while and they are not being honest and telling their buyers that there is big risk involved with shipping to their DE address these days.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5494 on: February 04, 2024, 12:34:36 PM »
From my understanding USA has been dealing with a theft problem for the past while and they are not being honest and telling their buyers that there is big risk involved with shipping to their DE address these days.
This is a risk for almost all BGs nowadays. There are a couple which have a lost package policy/insurance. You'd be best sending there if you want to minimize risk.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5495 on: February 04, 2024, 01:13:05 PM »
This is a risk for almost all BGs nowadays. There are a couple which have a lost package policy/insurance. You'd be best sending there if you want to minimize risk.
Which group has insurance?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5496 on: February 04, 2024, 01:57:18 PM »
I've heard buying group is the best hands down. Any dp's?

They're the only ones with a lost and empty package payment guarantee.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5497 on: February 04, 2024, 02:06:20 PM »
As the payout times increase longer and longer, it has become clear to me. THEY NEED YOU MORE FOR THE FREE SHORT TERM LOAN YOU ARE GIVING THEM RATHER THAN THE ACTUAL SOURCING OF THE PRODUCTS

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5498 on: February 04, 2024, 02:55:59 PM »
Where did you get delivered to lakewood or DE?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #5499 on: February 04, 2024, 05:02:06 PM »
As the payout times increase longer and longer, it has become clear to me. THEY NEED YOU MORE FOR THE FREE SHORT TERM LOAN YOU ARE GIVING THEM RATHER THAN THE ACTUAL SOURCING OF THE PRODUCTS
This is a lot truer than most people buying for them realize, which in turn makes the risk that much greater.