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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4680 on: April 04, 2024, 01:36:25 PM »
The union couldn't care less if teachers are fired, if not for the fact that membership and associated membership-dues income will go down. I've been working with unions for several decades, and the ONLY thing they care about is their own pockets. 

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4681 on: April 04, 2024, 01:42:00 PM »
The union couldn't care less if teachers are fired, if not for the fact that membership and associated membership-dues income will go down. I've been working with unions for several decades, and the ONLY thing they care about is their own pockets. 

And power!

Both of those shrink with fewer kids in public school.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4682 on: April 04, 2024, 02:16:21 PM »
Seems like the tuition relief bill is in serious peril, and would need a miracle to pass. It garnered a lot of attention, and thus the opposition of the progressives, including the powerful teacher’s union.

See the leading story in today’s Politico NJ Playbook.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/newjerseyplaybook

But we’ve seen miracles before so I’m not giving up hope.
they should look at ny. Lately there has been vouchers. It’s just not straight up voucher program. Instead it’s to help working parents with after care or child care.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4683 on: April 04, 2024, 02:33:02 PM »
Didn't realize Illinois was considered a red state.......
And they stopped it

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4684 on: April 04, 2024, 02:33:33 PM »
And they stopped it
Was a big blow to agudah

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4685 on: April 04, 2024, 03:49:30 PM »
A few points.

1. It's possible that this is just the first bill, and more could be coming. All he needs is one bill to pass and we get relief. It can be framed and structured in many different ways.

2. Opposition was expected. The teachers union does not want any money going to private schools, because they want every available dollar to go into the public school system. The point was that despite opposition, they can try to get it passed if they have a strong enough coalition.

3. Following point 2, there is a pretty wide coalition here. It's not just Jews pushing this forward, it's Muslims and Hispanics also speaking up.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4686 on: April 04, 2024, 05:58:23 PM »
A few points.

1. It's possible that this is just the first bill, and more could be coming. All he needs is one bill to pass and we get relief. It can be framed and structured in many different ways.

2. Opposition was expected. The teachers union does not want any money going to private schools, because they want every available dollar to go into the public school system. The point was that despite opposition, they can try to get it passed if they have a strong enough coalition.

3. Following point 2, there is a pretty wide coalition here. It's not just Jews pushing this forward, it's Muslims and Hispanics also speaking up.

point 2 = point 1. Meaning once you understand point 2, then you should understand that this is all procedural. Unless of course, someone wants to be cynical. Then it's much more beneficial to ignore the obvious.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4688 on: April 12, 2024, 10:56:55 AM »
https://lakewoodalerts.com/first-report-state-officials-reject-all-boe-loans-including-lakewoods-104-million-loan-request/

Wowza

https://www.app.com/story/news/education/2024/04/12/jackson-schools-aid-cut-s2/73125771007/

Well-written article. accurately points to the funding formula and ELL and doesn't go for the blood libel of blaming the Jews. The article shows where this is an issue across the state (Brick, Lacey etc. Not exactly Jewish hotbeds). Jackson has been dealing with a large influx of Spanish-speaking families which is which is largely driving the ELL issue.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4689 on: April 18, 2024, 08:55:42 AM »

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4690 on: April 20, 2024, 11:32:56 PM »
Hearing about a Lakewood family that was living as Frum Jews and it just came out they are German goyim

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4691 on: April 21, 2024, 03:45:42 AM »
Hearing about a Lakewood family that was living as Frum Jews and it just came out they are German goyim
I thought these type of things could only happen in out-of-town communities  ::)

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4692 on: April 21, 2024, 03:48:42 AM »
Hearing about a Lakewood family that was living as Frum Jews and it just came out they are German goyim
Sounds like a chasid from O&V just ran into his first yekki

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4693 on: May 05, 2024, 05:32:36 PM »

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4694 on: May 05, 2024, 06:13:52 PM »
Hearing about a Lakewood family that was living as Frum Jews and it just came out they are German goyim
The story I'm hearing is that they were officially Jewish and one of the big kiruv organizations made them frum and after living for a couple of years in Lakewood, research was done and came out they are regular Germans and the mother (father's out of the picture) was fooling the children

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4695 on: May 19, 2024, 02:48:41 AM »
The story I'm hearing is that they were officially Jewish and one of the big kiruv organizations made them frum and after living for a couple of years in Lakewood, research was done and came out they are regular Germans and the mother (father's out of the picture) was fooling the children
Correct. They have children in regular schools. One daughter is in a Lakewood seminary.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4696 on: May 19, 2024, 09:43:24 AM »
The story I'm hearing is that they were officially Jewish and one of the big kiruv organizations made them frum and after living for a couple of years in Lakewood, research was done and came out they are regular Germans and the mother (father's out of the picture) was fooling the children

What does that even mean?
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4697 on: May 19, 2024, 09:55:36 AM »
Father is Jewish FWIU

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4698 on: June 04, 2024, 02:23:54 PM »
Vine Street opened today between Pine and Cedarbridge. I’m willing to bet this turns Cedarbridge into a parking lot at peak times.

 Gotta love the literal turning lane to nowhere these geniuses created by Cedarbridge and MLK. Only the government could spend tens of thousands to take away a shoulder that was functional for cars to make a right turn on red to MLK and instead put in a left turning lane that is unused because it goes… straight into a concrete curb! Didn’t anyone notice as they were doing the work? Government at its best. 

I’m just trying to picture the guys striping the turning lanes.

“Hey Bob, (stares at the plans and scratches head) maybe we should speak to the engineer guys before we stripe this?”

“Listen Mike, they ain’t payin’ us to ask no questions. They pay us to work. They want a turning lane, let’s paint ‘em a turning lane.”
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #4699 on: June 04, 2024, 02:42:40 PM »
Vine Street opened today between Pine and Cedarbridge. I’m willing to bet this turns Cedarbridge into a parking lot at peak times.

 Gotta love the literal turning lane to nowhere these geniuses created by Cedarbridge and MLK. Only the government could spend tens of thousands to take away a shoulder that was functional for cars to make a right turn on red to MLK and instead put in a left turning lane that is unused because it goes… straight into a concrete curb! Didn’t anyone notice as they were doing the work? Government at its best. 

I’m just trying to picture the guys striping the turning lanes.

“Hey Bob, (stares at the plans and scratches head) maybe we should speak to the engineer guys before we stripe this?”

“Listen Mike, they ain’t payin’ us to ask no questions. They pay us to work. They want a turning lane, let’s paint ‘em a turning lane.”
It goes into a parking lot entrance.
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