The Future of Lakewood

[Dave321]

In an extremely simplified manner - last election Thompson got 42k votes in Lakewood and Howell (combined), and the Dem got about 10k. The election was won by roughly 30k votes. So flip 15k and the election is Schnall. Very conceivable but much easier said than done. If the Lakewood community listens to the Moetzes and every influential Rav in Lakewood, I think Schnall will win. But that's the big if.

hes targeting chassidish communities as well. no trump on the ballot so thats a plus for him.
thomson is just a bracha levatala. he didnt do anything wrong but all he got was a bill to protect jelly fish. he hasnt done anything else.
Shnall would be in a much better position if he started davening in a diff shul every tefila. the every day joe should see him. not just Reb Malkiel

[ari3]

In an extremely simplified manner - last election Thompson got 42k votes in Lakewood and Howell (combined), and the Dem got about 10k. The election was won by roughly 30k votes. So flip 15k and the election is Schnall. Very conceivable but much easier said than done.

you are assuming he will get all those votes that voted democratic last time. I wouldn't assume so.

If the Lakewood community listens to the Moetzes and every influential Rav in Lakewood, I think Schnall will win. But that's the big if.

What are the reasons someone would not vote for him other than the fact he is running as a democrat? He hasn't yet been tarnished as being part of the elected establishment and he is running against someone who hasn't done anything for the Lakewood community.

[dealfinder11]

you are assuming he will get all those votes that voted democratic last time. I wouldn't assume so.

Alrighty I'll get a little more technical. (I Intentionally oversimplified it.) There are a number of variables that are wild cards, including the one you mentioned. Most variables have strong reasons why they can change to help, hurt, or stay the same. In regards to democrat votes, there are many democrats who live in this district who don't bother voting because there is generally no point. They might come out when it's a close election.

Another variable, already mentioned, is the increased number of Lakewood residence making the effort to vote, boosting turnout. People could care less about voting for Thompson. There have been specific efforts in the growing chassidish community that can play a role as well. There may may also be a protest vote against Schnall by the "Howell strong" crowd.

There are plenty of counterarguments, as well as other arguments to be made. I don't have enough conviction in any to conclude that they in aggregate help or hurt Avi. Which is why I oversimplified it.

What are the reasons someone would not vote for him other than the fact he is running as a democrat? He hasn't yet been tarnished as being part of the elected establishment and he is running against someone who hasn't done anything for the Lakewood community.

There are a lot of people in Lakewood who are instinctually distrustful of anybody the Vaad endorses, and the Vaad also endorsed Avi.

[avromie7]

What are the reasons someone would not vote for him other than the fact he is running as a democrat?

This is the dumbest excuse. It was concocted by some who are so anti establishment that they refuse to open their eyes.

There are a lot of people in Lakewood who are instinctually distrustful of anybody the Vaad endorses, and the Vaad also endorsed Avi.

I'm one of them and I plan to vote for Avi. He needs to show the typical person who is distrustful that he's not just another establishment hack.

[YitzyS]

@ Yitzy
Who is Deborah Fuentes and why her over Bruce Stern?

I don't know. I think she is the wife of Hector Fuentes, who I think is on one of the boards.

I personally voted for Stern, as I've seen him a few times and he seems like a really decent guy.

I just saw that LNN interviewed her: https://lnnnews.com/meet-the-candidate-interview-debra-fuentes/

[ari3]

There may may also be a protest vote against Schnall by the "Howell strong" crowd.

Those people weren't voting democrat in the last election. At most it will increase turnout. I was alluding to the fact that many of the democrat votes are minority and I doubt too many of them are interested in voting for a lakewood orthodox "Rabbi".

There are a lot of people in Lakewood who are instinctually distrustful of anybody the Vaad endorses, and the Vaad also endorsed Avi.

For good reason unfortunately. I hope he is different.

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-  Assemblyman Ned Thomson is calling on his Democratic colleagues to join him in sponsoring bill A613,  for tuition relief “The Opportunity Scholarship Act," to provide much-needed tuition relief to parents of private school children through tax credits. More

[YitzyS]

I just saw that LNN interviewed her: https://lnnnews.com/meet-the-candidate-interview-debra-fuentes/

Just listened to this interview. In short, she seems like a full-blown establishment candidate:

I love Lakewood. I love the growth, I'm from Brooklyn and lived here for decades and worked for the county and my husband is a Planning Board member and I am so happy that this community is growing. I think all the Committee members are doing a fantastic job. Etc...

[cholent]

Just listened to this interview. In short, she seems like a full-blown establishment candidate:

I love Lakewood. I love the growth, I'm from Brooklyn and lived here for decades and worked for the county and my husband is a Planning Board member and I am so happy that this community is growing. I think all the Committee members are doing a fantastic job. Etc...

Guess I know who I'm not voting for...

[WayBackMachine]

why is this okay?
i guess the center is for wheelchair access

[WayBackMachine]

is there a way to get the owners info based on license plates?

[avromie7]

Guess I know who I'm not voting for...

Keep in mind, if there is only 1 candidate you like, you should only vote for 1 instead of giving another vote to a candidate you dislike. If you want HH to win, vote for him and no one else.

[AsherO]

is their a way to get the owners info based on license plates?

There are sites that supposedly sell reports that have this info, I’ve never used them.

[YitzyS]

Keep in mind, if there is only 1 candidate you like, you should only vote for 1 instead of giving another vote to a candidate you dislike. If you want HH to win, vote for him and no one else.

I personally voted for Bruce Stern and HH.

I don't want HH to win. I think he will lose. But I want him to lose by a small margin, so that the establishment will feel some heat.

If I had the deciding vote between HH or an incumbent, I would have to think long and hard what to do. But since IMO he has no chance, I voted for him to make a statement.

[JMHO]

why is this okay?
i guess the center is for wheelchair access

Why do you think it's okay?

[Definitions2]

There are sites that supposedly sell reports that have this info, I’ve never used them.

Those sites don't work. Only police can lookup the owners name.
The car data you can get. Such as make model year color

[AsherO]

Those sites don't work. Only police can lookup the owners name.
The car data you can get. Such as make model year color

That you can get for free

[Dawie]

Just listened to this interview. In short, she seems like a full-blown establishment candidate:

I love Lakewood. I love the growth, I'm from Brooklyn and lived here for decades and worked for the county and my husband is a Planning Board member and I am so happy that this community is growing. I think all the Committee members are doing a fantastic job. Etc...

But why her over Bruce?

[dealfinder11]

[Euclid]

:eyeroll:


ETA: Does this mean that he now is supporting AS, because he wants to promote unity? lol