PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others

[Euclid]

That's not how jokes work.

BMG coffee room centric joke. Anything and everything is ltoeles harabim, especially when it's self serving

[DaasTora]

BMG coffee room centric joke. Anything and everything is ltoeles harabim, especially when it's self serving

Average Lakewood family is a nice “rabim”….

[EliJelly]

Just bumped into this thread, pet peeve of mine. The kind of sleazy ads the frum community is subjected to everywhere. Unbelievable what has happened to the עם חכם ונבון.

From the mushrooming of *courses* on options trading, marriage, health and whatnot, to the עין הרע extinguishers, to the cc signups and farms, to heal-everything drops and everything in-between. The common theme is that the one and only expense these scam businesses have is paying for advertainments, benefitting the publications while annoying the readership and listeners to the core.

[chbochur]

It's fitting, 'Gemach' Chasdei Yosef started with this "cultural appropriation", and a non-zero amount of these referees will likely end up there

Major pet peeve of mine (I am biased though). Calling yourself a gemach to one group of people and a business to another when you charge the same rates.
Also none of those rates are anything near cheesed

https://gemachcy.com/
https://crcounselinggroup.com/

Same company as can be seen on the bottom of the webpage

[Yehuda57]

Doesn't gemach just mean "rental" now?

[WonderingYid]

As far as I can tell neither of them are fraudsters or inherently dishonest people. Hope they stay that way.

They are telling people that they are “ volunteers” when they are being highly compensated.

Who are you fooling?

Why don’t they have the standard required Affilate disclosure on their website?

They are specifically targeting people they don’t have regular access to credit card offers like these.

[gutlib]

Doesn't gemach just mean "rental" now?

NO, in Israel it means: it's more expensive.

[Yehuda57]

Let’s be honest, many of us have done this in some small scale

No. We haven't. I've answered people who be contacted me, but I have never marketed, even on a personal WhatsApp status or the like, let alone paid thousands of dollars to advertise in magazines, buy contact lists and set up robo calls etc.

I have made a website as joke though, I didn't even shell out the couple of bucks it would take to buy the domain.

No one is "inherently" a fraudster. This is not fraud in that there is no stealing money, but there are lies and deception for personal gain with no regard for the harm that might befall their "customers". That's pretty darn close.

[Young explorer]

[dealmaster]

Major pet peeve of mine (I am biased though). Calling yourself a gemach to one group of people and a business to another when you charge the same rates.
Also none of those rates are anything near cheesed

https://gemachcy.com/
https://crcounselinggroup.com/

Same company as can be seen on the bottom of the webpage

I honestly have no idea, as bh I never needed such a service, but perhaps the "gemach" charges a lower fee than the other company(or lower than industry standard)? Again I have no personal knowledge but this MAY be a legitimate thing

[UKinNYS]

lets not start with israeli 'gemachim' which are huge unregulated money markets.

I honestly have no idea, as bh I never needed such a service, but perhaps the "gemach" charges a lower fee than the other company(or lower than industry standard)? Again I have no personal knowledge but this MAY be a legitimate thing

[Cat18]

How do you sell this to people: "if you use my link you'll earn $1500, but there's another link out there which you'll earn $1800"?

Guess that's why you're in sales, and I'm not

DD doesnt inform people of higher offers available elsewhere

[Yo ssi]

DD doesnt inform people of higher offers available elsewhere

Yup not even for deals see here.
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=118610.msg2367924#msg2367924

[yelped]

DD doesnt inform people of higher offers available elsewhere

Big difference.

[zalman2bis]

DD doesnt inform people of higher offers available elsewhere

Like this one (long expired):
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=125574.msg2526914#msg2526914

[S209]

No. We haven't.

I wasn’t talking about advertising, I said referring people to credit cards. I said many of us do, and you personally not having done so is obviously irrelevant. Are you honestly going to say you don’t think many people on this thread have earned oodles of points off referrals on Ink cards this past year alone?

There are two points here being made, the deception and the credit card trap. The deception is something I’m against, I agree it’s highly misleading, perhaps even illegal.

As for the potential pitfalls of credit cards, yes people are negatively affected but they’re no worse than any credit card affiliate online (ahem). It’s hard to say they’re evil just because they’re getting people to sign up for credit cards, EVEN if you believe credit cards are the root of all evil.

[Yehuda57]

I wasn’t talking about advertising, I said referring people to credit cards.

"Putting aside the issue everyone was talking about, we've all done the same thing."

[S209]

No one is "inherently" a fraudster.

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There are plenty of people who are dishonest. Like, they would straight up lie. Like I said I know these guys and I believe they are honest as in they wouldn’t lie. You’re right that this is deceptive but they probably justify it in their heads and perhaps even tell you about their compensation once you call.

[S209]

"Putting aside the issue everyone was talking about, we've all done the same thing."

This is uncharacteristic of you. I wrote a few paragraphs, in that particular paragraph I was addressing the point that you brought up about referring novices to credit cards. Whatever your feelings on that issue are, and I’m sure they are valid (I’ve seen your posts on this topic and they have influenced the way I think about credit cards) it’s disingenuous to pretend many here don’t refer people to the game constantly.

[Yehuda57]

This is uncharacteristic of you. I wrote a few paragraphs, in that particular paragraph I was addressing the point that you brought up about referring novices to credit cards. Whatever your feelings on that issue are, and I’m sure they are valid (I’ve seen your posts on this topic and they have influenced the way I think about credit cards) it’s disingenuous to pretend many here don’t refer people to the game constantly.

I've referred people myself. No one takes issue with referrals. It's the deception and purposefully targeting people ignorant of the topic. No, we haven't all done that on any scale